woodster
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| posted on 18/5/15 at 07:44 PM |
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Another mini ... ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1971-Mini-barn-find-/181744672432?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a50d39eb0
They must just be selling its ID , I can't see anything else worth having 
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 18/5/15 at 09:17 PM |
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Normally. this in Ebay verbage would be described as:
'Eazy fix', 'Bargin!', 'Awsum Breaks'.
Something is clearly suspect, since the vendor has utilised none of those words.
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jps
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| posted on 19/5/15 at 11:22 AM |
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Not to state a view one way or the other - but I am surprised by the differing views that seem to exist in terms of car identity. I guess that the LCB
collective has a certain standpoint as 'ground up' builders in a lot of cases....
In rallying it seems to be common practice (or at least to have been in the past) for identities (i.e. number plates) to swap cars regularly.
I've seen a comment recently that was along the lines of: "I imagine the registration of a given car had more to do with what licence
plate had tax on it..." - i.e. a works rally team would have a few cars - and depending on which ones had recently been stuffed on an event -
they'd just get another one out - and drop the plates across for the next event.
Also in the rallying scene - cars in the past seem to have been 're-shelled into later version' without a second thought - i.e. someone
stuffs a Mk1 Escort, 'reshells' it in a Mk2 shell, pops the same plates on - and off they go...
And in classic car restoration there seem to be absolute strip to shell process described on a monthly basis in magazines, where vast amounts of
chassis or monocoque are replaced/reworked - and never a thought of a car going off to IVA (or whatever the equivalent would be)...
Obviously the 'buy an ID then apply it to a different car' process that the eBay ad tends towards sounds rather more dodgy than the 3
variations i've described above, but nevertheless it is evident that there are different levels of what is 'normal' around vehicle
identity among different groups of petrol-heads...
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chillis
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| posted on 19/5/15 at 12:12 PM |
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Potentially you could re-shell it if one major mechanical component could be re-used, then it would be legit. In reality trying to convince the
inspector its still the 'same car' would be the stumbling point. Doubt it would be worth doing on a cost basis though.
As for rally cars they were and are often re-shelled, this is easier though as you would be starting with a car that is already being used on the road
and then 'repairing damage' - this is perfectly acceptable under the DVLA rules as that provision is to allow insurance companies to
re-shell and repair cars.
I suspect this is aimed at someone 'using' the identity on another 'taxable' car to get tax exempt status. If this is
uncovered by the DVLA then you could face trouble for tax avoidance/evasion.
Never under estimate the ingenuity of an idiot!
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chillis
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| posted on 19/5/15 at 12:12 PM |
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Potentially you could re-shell it if one major mechanical component could be re-used, then it would be legit. In reality trying to convince the
inspector its still the 'same car' would be the stumbling point. Doubt it would be worth doing on a cost basis though.
As for rally cars they were and are often re-shelled, this is easier though as you would be starting with a car that is already being used on the road
and then 'repairing damage' - this is perfectly acceptable under the DVLA rules as that provision is to allow insurance companies to
re-shell and repair cars.
I suspect this is aimed at someone 'using' the identity on another 'taxable' car to get tax exempt status. If this is
uncovered by the DVLA then you could face trouble for tax avoidance/evasion.
Never under estimate the ingenuity of an idiot!
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rf900rush
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| posted on 19/5/15 at 04:24 PM |
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Aren't Mini's and MGB's the main 2 old cars that can be re-shelled
http://www.bmh-ltd.com/minishell.htm
althought is'nt this one is pushing the rules a bit.
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jps
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| posted on 19/5/15 at 07:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rf900rush
Aren't Mini's and MGB's the main 2 old cars that can be re-shelled
http://www.bmh-ltd.com/minishell.htm
althought is'nt this one is pushing the rules a bit.
If you can get a better shell then anything can be reshelled. Not unheard of for people to buy a classic then a 'donor' then realise the
'donor' is in better nick and restore that instead. At which point there could be plenty of reasons for the identity to mysteriously swap
shells....
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