coyoteboy
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 12:00 PM |
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Best current argon source for DIY
So I'm now kitted out with a TIG setup and want to get back to practicing. However I'm trying to assess the argon cost landscape. Looks
like for a DIY is more sense for deposit style cyls due to low use rate, but who do you guys use and what's the average price you're
paying?
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 01:48 PM |
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Ask your local motorfactors they may be able to help.? I have a rent free bottle of argon from Adams gas but I now don’t have a local Adams gas agent.
My CO /argon bottle came from my local m/f
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Slimy38
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 02:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Ask your local motorfactors they may be able to help.? I have a rent free bottle of argon from Adams gas but I now don’t have a local Adams gas agent.
My CO /argon bottle came from my local m/f
I go with Adam's gas too, but they do go through agents at a fair pace. I've had three different ones so far, and my nearest one is 10
miles away. Having said that, paying a deposit and then a bottle full really works for me, I'd be paying ten times the amounts if I had been
renting.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 02:07 PM |
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for me
There is a local guy that does hobby weld.
+ He is local and he does it on the side so is very handy and will do an exchange evenings and week ends.
- The small bottles aren’t cheap and don’t go far with a Tig. But they are now doing a bigger bottle with out the built in reg that will work out
cheaper. Not only is the bottle bigger but it’s at a higher pressure.
The welding shop where I bought my mig does there own scheme.
+ Much bigger bottles making each litre cheaper than the small hobby weld. Deposited wasn’t much differant.
- They are only open 9-5 mon to fri and are in the centre of a small city / large town so I never seem to be able to get there in a hurry.
The large one on the mig has lasted me coming up four years. It’s used often but for small jobs.
The small argon in the Tig disappears fast. I think my last small argon exchange was around £60
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 02:41 PM |
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I'd certainly never considered a local motor factors, good point! Looking down the Adams gas dealers a lot seem to be MFs.
I'll have a look into hobbyweld - I think there's a Glasgow dealer I could speak to. A large bottle with higher pressure seems ideal,
really just don't want to be floating hundreds in deposits but I guess the reality is the refund is pretty quick anyway.
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nick205
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 04:10 PM |
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I have a rent free bottle of gas from a local welding supplier who can refill it when it's run out. Aside from that a couple of local motor
factors offer a welding gas service. Might sound daft, but garden centre's who do patio gas may also offer access to welding gas.
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DanP
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 04:31 PM |
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another vote for hobby weld, I pay about 40-50 quid for a 130L (in a 10L bottle) refill, and the bottle deposit was about 70 quid.
Some motor factors are stockists of Hobby Weld, but I use my local welding supplier.
[Edited on 5/6/19 by DanP]
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JC
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 06:48 PM |
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Hmmm - I’ve lost my Hobby Weld deposit receipt......less than ideal!
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JC
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 06:48 PM |
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Hmmm - I’ve lost my Hobby Weld deposit receipt......less than ideal!
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perksy
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 07:29 PM |
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I use Adams gas and the retailer is approx 12 miles away
Depends how quickly you get through it with regards travelling etc
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 08:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DanP
another vote for hobby weld, I pay about 40-50 quid for a 130L (in a 10L bottle) refill, and the bottle deposit was about 70 quid.
Some motor factors are stockists of Hobby Weld, but I use my local welding supplier.
[Edited on 5/6/19 by DanP]
1300l? 10l @137bar?
I'll call a couple of the locals to see what they offer, there's Adams and hobby weld local. Prices seem reasonable!
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DanP
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 08:58 PM |
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Sorry yes I missed a zero.
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 5/6/19 at 09:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DanP
Sorry yes I missed a zero.
Phew. Thought I'd miscalculated how expensive this was going to be!
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ianhurley20
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| posted on 6/6/19 at 07:23 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JC
Hmmm - I’ve lost my Hobby Weld deposit receipt......less than ideal!
My local supplier says no problem as the system has been computerised and they will be able to find your deposit in it
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trextr7monkey
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| posted on 6/6/19 at 09:28 AM |
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We changed to Hobbygas from BOC and saved a fortune we hired 2 cylinders so always have gas although supplies are only 10 minutes up the road full
price list if you search Thomas-Graham welding gas
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14016102@N00/ (cut and paste this dodgey link)
Our most recent pics are here:
http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p211/trextr7monkey/
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JonBowden
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| posted on 6/6/19 at 10:46 AM |
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I use BOC, partially as there is no other supplier near. Annual rent for a size Y (big) bottle is about £56 and about the same for each refill. I
think the bottle holds about 30l
Jon
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 6/6/19 at 11:26 AM |
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Jon, those numbers seem very cheap - I looked at the BOC website and it looked like annual rental would be ~150 min for a small bottle. Plus they
won't deliver to residential addresses - do you have a business account?
https://www.boconline.co.uk/en/imag
es/Industrial-and-Special-Gas-UK-Rental-Price-List-exVAT_tcm410-537978.pdf
[Edited on 6/6/19 by coyoteboy]
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Andy S
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| posted on 6/6/19 at 07:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
Jon, those numbers seem very cheap - I looked at the BOC website and it looked like annual rental would be ~150 min for a small bottle. Plus they
won't deliver to residential addresses - do you have a business account?
https://www.boconline.co.uk/en/imag
es/Industrial-and-Special-Gas-UK-Rental-Price-List-exVAT_tcm410-537978.pdf
[Edited on 6/6/19 by coyoteboy]
Those are the hobby account prices - I think it used to be called the Volksworld/zone deal or some such but you need to speak with them or your local
stockist when setting up the account.
The Y bottle is 5.0m3 - If you are going through 2-3 bottles a year it can work out quite economical but not if you have one bottle every 5 years.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 6/6/19 at 07:10 PM |
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I thought they closed that years ago ? I enquired and got no reply .
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 7/6/19 at 03:46 PM |
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OK, confirmed BOC will offer hobby rates and have just signed me up for an account for Y size bottles, as above. Looks like £14 admin fee at first
bottle collection. Thanks for your help folks, I'll be tiggifying soon I hope.
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Uphill Racer
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| posted on 10/7/19 at 10:49 PM |
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I'm lucky as I have this company close, best deal and free delivery.
https://chorleybottlegas.co.uk/shop/welding-gas/pure-argon-50-litres/
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