nitram38
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 01:15 PM |
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MotaLeira.......more photos
Things are moving on....
Please ignore the bubble wrap and swarf! 
 
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indykid
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 01:23 PM |
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it's getting there! well done
what happened with the finish on the chassis tubes though? are they brush painted? 
makes a homebuilt atom look very...homebuilt imho
tom
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tegwin
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 01:38 PM |
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Have to agree with him above..... The quality of the work is amazing, but the chassis...which lets face it is a work of art... is ruined by the poor
paint finish...
Not what you want to hear... but there we have it
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mr henderson
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 01:44 PM |
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Looks like you will have to brace yourself for another round of complaints about the chassis finish, again!
I'll say what I said last time, it looks fine to me
John
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bigpig
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 04:19 PM |
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Yeah, I quite like it.
It sort of looks like someone knicked a load of 1950's school fence rails to make the chassis.
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nitram38
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 04:57 PM |
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Some of you sure have a paint finish hang up!
I am not explaining my choice of paint anymore.
I think that I will keep future pictures to myself..............you can see it at the shows or passing you on the road...........your loss.
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StevieB
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 05:16 PM |
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While powder coating has a superior finish in terms of look and feel, there are certain practicalities with NOT using it - such as you can easily
touch upo paint and also remove small areas, weld and touch up again without much problem and no-one would ever know you did it.
Plus, the stuff Nitram has used it bloody hard wearing too, and with exposed chassis rails they'll probably get a lot more grit blasted by road
dirt than most cars.
Nitram - if you stop posting photo's, feel free to email them to me as I always like to have a look at how you're progressing - part of m
own idea forming process!
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mr henderson
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 05:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
Some of you sure have a paint finish hang up!
I am not explaining my choice of paint anymore.
I think that I will keep future pictures to myself..............you can see it at the shows or passing you on the road...........your loss.
Well there's two of us (at least) that don't have a such a hang up, so post the pics and those that don't like the finish just
mustn't look
John
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IDONTBELEIVEIT
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 05:38 PM |
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looks like your doin a top job mate
always liked the atom
keep on posting piccies though ay
Are We There Yet, Are We There Yet!!!!
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 05:40 PM |
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Your car, your choice of paint. I would like to be kept updated with pictures too though.
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 05:43 PM |
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make that three,
ive been following this project for a while and think its great to see the progress.
Kit cars and especially scratch builds are quite a personal thing (why else would you make one) and i think everybody has a different perspective on
what they should be.
Martin hasn't chosen this paint as a spontanious decision, its bl**dy expensive stuff. hes probably chosen it because he knows too well that
cars get knocked about a bit and although the aesthetics may never be initially great...they sure as hell wont deteriate with years of salt water and
road grit abuse.
ATB will
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 06:15 PM |
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They also haven't realised that he hasn't give it a final rub down, polish and laquer top coats.
Keep the piccies coming man. A truly inspirational job.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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nitram38
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 06:19 PM |
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No worries, I'll keep posting
I just thought I would add to the negative!
If you go over to the atom forums, you will see people going to great lengths to repairing their powdercoat, some even stripping the car back to bare
chassis.
I want to spend my time driving this car, not keep telling people how to get in and out without damaging the paint.
Paint touch ups will be easier.
The car is now going back together and it is also going back faster without the worry of the odd scuff.
The engine goes back next followed by the rear suspension. I am also waiting on some purple silicon hoses from rallydesign so that I can finish the
plumbing and mount the rad.
I have bought Photon lights from Russ Bost and I just need to make some brackets to mount them (same as cloudy's).
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Alan B
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 07:03 PM |
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Adding to the please keep posting list.....looking good Martin,
Alan
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chrsgrain
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 07:05 PM |
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Definitely keep the photos coming....
On the subject of the paint - I need to choose some chassis paint soon... does it need to go to bare metal, or can it go over etch primer? Really
want to have a hard wearing finish on it - but its coming back from being repaired with etch primer already on....
By the way - great work as always!
Chris
Spoing! - the sound of an irony meter breaking...
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nitram38
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 09:05 PM |
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Chris, I think you can paint over etch, but it will just go straight over bare steel. It is a two part paint with hardner. It stays like a rubber
finish which is flexible but does not come off in big bits if you scrape it.
They say you can spray it, but because of my limited space I brushed on. Link to website
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 10:27 PM |
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I used that stuff on my wishbones and rear swinging arms. I applied it with one of those disposable foam rollers used for applying gloss paint.
Didn't look too bad in the end, but I did give it a top coat of satin black to give a nice finish.
It's certainly tough - took a wire brush in angry grinder to remove it when I had to fix something.
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cloudy
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 10:34 PM |
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Loving the ally electric box, given me some idea's for mine!
As an aside why can't we have a more standard new posts view on the homepage, which also shows old threads with new posts as opposed to just new
threads. I like to keep my diary in one long thread, but it means nobody see's the updates. People end up having to make multiple topics every
time they have a new update!
[Edited on 9/11/08 by cloudy]
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nitram38
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| posted on 9/11/08 at 10:55 PM |
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Not tried the roller method Chris. I don't have much left to experiment with. When the car is finished, I need the last of it to go around any
damage.
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nitram38
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| posted on 10/11/08 at 01:08 AM |
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I bought the 5 ltr pack and I have about 1/2 ltr left after two coats with a brush.
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Peteff
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| posted on 10/11/08 at 10:32 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chrsgrain
On the subject of the paint - I need to choose some chassis paint soon... does it need to go to bare metal, or can it go over etch primer?
By the way - great work as always!
Chris
You don't need to etch prime steel, aluminium needs it to remove the oxide coating that forms on it almost immediately. I read of another Atom
made in the fifties by Fairthorpe.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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bob
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| posted on 10/11/08 at 04:01 PM |
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Got to admit if i did it again i deffinatly would not have a powdercoated chassis, every time i have upgrdeitus i spend more time reparing or tidying
up the powdercoated areas.
I would deffinatly advise people to go with a painted chassis as far easier to maintain.
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kb58
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| posted on 10/11/08 at 07:59 PM |
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IMO there's little difference between grinding off powdercoat or regular paint. Both need a grinder of some sort, flapper wheel or otherwise.
Assuming there's a matching color for the powdercoat, there's no difference when touching up the job.
I had my first chassis powdercoated and I'll definitely do it again for the next car.
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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wilkingj
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| posted on 11/11/08 at 12:28 PM |
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They key to ANY quality finish is to shot/sand blast the chassis before applying any coating.
This is where the manufacturers are going wrong. and its only down to cost.
Powder coating will chip and flake, if the steel has NOT been properly prepared.
Same goes for paint.
Providing a good keyed surface will sort it every time. Same goes for painting the house!
If you want a good job... do it properly.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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nitram38
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| posted on 13/11/08 at 02:34 PM |
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Engine back in today:
 
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