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Hellfire

posted on 29/5/04 at 03:00 PM Reply With Quote
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The hand's of a clock are aligned with each other at 12 o'clock. At what time precisely are they next aligned?






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PAUL FISHER

posted on 29/5/04 at 03:14 PM Reply With Quote
I think it must be 1 o:clock
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thebutler

posted on 29/5/04 at 03:21 PM Reply With Quote
To be pedantic, they are always aligned. How they are aligned just varies
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Cita

posted on 29/5/04 at 03:28 PM Reply With Quote
5 past one
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macspeedy

posted on 29/5/04 at 03:45 PM Reply With Quote
12 o'clock
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Peteff

posted on 29/5/04 at 04:20 PM Reply With Quote
01:05:12

That's my version anyway.





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JoelP

posted on 29/5/04 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
im with pete... unless its a trick question.





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Hugh Paterson

posted on 29/5/04 at 05:40 PM Reply With Quote
13:05 n 5 secs
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JoelP

posted on 29/5/04 at 06:19 PM Reply With Quote
it also depends on whether the clock is actually working or not! if it aint going, the hands are always aligned!





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JoelP

posted on 29/5/04 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
at 1pm, the hour hand is at 30 degrees and the minute hand is at 0 degrees. At five past, the minute is now at 30 degrees but the hour hand is now at 32.5 degrees. 15 seconds later, the minute hand is at 32.5 degrees but the hour hand has has crept on to 32.625 degrees. im guessing its about 18 seconds past 1.05pm.

obviously theres an equation to solve to give the precise answer, but its a tricky one. Anyone know it?! i dont yet...





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JoelP

posted on 29/5/04 at 06:40 PM Reply With Quote
y=mx+c

so y=60x+0

and y=x+30

so 60x=x+30

and x=30/59

which is 0.508 minutes past one.

seems to go wrong after there though. Whats up with it?

thats 4.8 seconds past 5 past 1.

[Edited on 29/5/04 by JoelP]





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Hugh Paterson

posted on 29/5/04 at 08:47 PM Reply With Quote
Smart arses

Ah but whats the terminal velocity of a long haired common or garden tom cat, that accidently gets lobbed out of a window on the 15th floor of a tower block, and uses up all its 9 lives when it hits the pavement paws first of course
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Hellfire

posted on 29/5/04 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
Joep - you are oon the right track. However, there is a small error in your calculations you haven't allowed for the hour and minute fingers moving on 'a bit'.

I do have the exact answer, and it isn't a trick question.






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ady8077

posted on 29/5/04 at 09:20 PM Reply With Quote
Hi

Is it 1:06:06?

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Alan B

posted on 29/5/04 at 09:49 PM Reply With Quote
1 hour 5 minutes 27.272727 secs

If that's right I'll explain later......

If it's wrong someone else told me...

I mean next alignment is 5mins 27.272727 secs past 1 or 1.05.27.2727272

[Edited on 29/5/04 by Alan B]

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ady8077

posted on 29/5/04 at 10:24 PM Reply With Quote
Hi

has the clock in question got a seconds hand?

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Cita

posted on 30/5/04 at 06:27 AM Reply With Quote
Alan,how can the hands align with a never ending outcome as 27.27272727 sec.?
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JoelP

posted on 30/5/04 at 07:51 AM Reply With Quote
1hr05mins5.084746secs past midday?

.5084746 is like a magic number, if you subtract .5 and times it by 60 the answer is nearly the same as the number you began with.





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Alan B

posted on 30/5/04 at 12:25 PM Reply With Quote
The answer really is quite easy.....(if I'm right...)

In a 12 hour period the minute hand passes/aligns with the hour hand 11 times......the hands are geared together so this interval is the same every time

So the next alignment is 12.00 plus 12/11 hours...12/11 hours is 1 hour 5 mins 27.27r secs.

Am I right Hellfire?

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JoelP

posted on 30/5/04 at 04:31 PM Reply With Quote
im with alan then...





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posted on 30/5/04 at 04:39 PM Reply With Quote
I don't care, but then again when do I ever...





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Cita

posted on 30/5/04 at 07:32 PM Reply With Quote
1 hour is exactly 3600 seconds,not one thousend of a second more or less
5 minutes is exactly 300 seconds.
is 2.27 seconds exact? No because the hands will not align at 2.27 seconds but two thousands of a second later.Even this is not correct because it's actually 7 thenthousands of a second later than 2.272 seconds and so and so on.

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JoelP

posted on 30/5/04 at 07:42 PM Reply With Quote
2.72727272727272727 is still a specific time, even if the numbers go on forever. By 2.73 seconds, you have missed it. hence it is entirely plausible.

I actually agree with alan due to the simplicity of the workings, my attempts disagree but the complexity allows more errors to creep in, and i cant find anything wrong with his reasoning or working, so it stands until disproven.





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Cita

posted on 30/5/04 at 08:11 PM Reply With Quote
How can a never ending number be specific?
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Cita

posted on 30/5/04 at 08:14 PM Reply With Quote
By 2,272 you are to early by 2.273 you're to late.
Anything in between will do you mean?

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