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smdl

posted on 1/1/07 at 03:38 AM Reply With Quote
Grinding Chassis for Floor and Body Panels

How far should I grind the welds? Completely flat? Leave a bit for strength?

Also, how much does this weaken the structure? For example, on the sides of the chassis, we grind the bottom for the floor, the side for the body work, the top of the upper tube where the body panel folds over, and the inside of the upper rail where the body panel wraps around for riveting. Does this make things weak?

Thanks,
Shaun

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Ivan

posted on 1/1/07 at 07:05 AM Reply With Quote
The flatter the weaker so only as flat as you need to.

How weak depends on how good your weld penetration is.

Sorry but I don't know enough about the subject to quantify the exact amount of weakness induced by grinding.






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phelpsa

posted on 1/1/07 at 01:00 PM Reply With Quote
If you have good penetration then grinding all the welds off will weaken it very little. If you had crap penetration then grinding the welds off could weaken them significantly.

How much do you trust your welds?






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Peteff

posted on 1/1/07 at 02:16 PM Reply With Quote
Get a flexible nylon backing pad for your grinder and some 60 or 80 grit fibre disks to linish the welds down. They don't cut in like grinding wheels and they don't make as much mess. They also last ages.





yours, Pete

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cloudy

posted on 1/1/07 at 10:17 PM Reply With Quote
peteff is right, that's how I smooth off my welds - works a treat

James

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gazza285

posted on 1/1/07 at 11:16 PM Reply With Quote
Or a flap disc if you are rich enough.

Here's a gratuitous waste of bandwidth.







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smdl

posted on 2/1/07 at 12:07 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the feedback, gents. I will try the alternate methods of material removal and see how they work.

As far as penetration goes, I think that my welds are solid. I tried many test welds before starting on the chassis, and was unable to separate any of them even by beating them to death with a BFH. The tubing bent, but the welds didn't break.

I am assuming that, given sufficient weld penetration, the normal thing to do is to grind the welds flat and not worry about it? Is this what everyone else has done?

Thanks,
Shaun

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macnab

posted on 2/1/07 at 12:20 AM Reply With Quote
That's why it's best to chamfer the joints first.






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JoelP

posted on 2/1/07 at 06:47 PM Reply With Quote
a good weld will be almost totally unaffected by grinding flat, as the weakest point is still (im led to believe) the edge of the heat affected zone. However if you didnt get total penetration, it will be significantly weaker - there is even a stress raiser on the back there the tubes are still unjoined!
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smdl

posted on 7/1/07 at 05:58 AM Reply With Quote
Gazza285,

Thanks for the recommendation of the flap disc. Fantastic control and does a top job.

Cheers,
Shaun

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gazza285

posted on 7/1/07 at 07:16 AM Reply With Quote
You are very welcome.





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