splitrivet
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 07:41 PM |
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How to kill a tree
Theres an empty property round the back of 2 of mine with a small courtyard in this courtyard are 3 trees which have begun to damage my roof are
damaging a neighbours and have damaged the empty property's.
The guy who ones the property, an old fella by all accounts rarely shows up. When, the neighbour collared him on one occasion about the trees he said
the tree's were there before the neighbour moved in so tough luck basically.
Contacted the council who wont give me his address (data protection bullshite) posted several notes telling him about the trees all to no avail.
So it looks like I'll have to do summat sneaky, any tree murderers on here if so how do you go about it.
Cheers,
Bob
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maccmike
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 07:45 PM |
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I have a chainsaw
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BenB
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 07:47 PM |
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I killed a tree when I was young (it was in our garden) by drilling a big old hole in the trunk, sticking a tube into it and in the other end
attaching a bottle full of bleach and copper sulfate mixed. Did the job. Not sure what did it mind you, could have been the bleach, could have been
the copper sulfate. All I know is it worked. Presumably got into the xylem and mucked that fella up good and proper  But it was not a "perfect
crime" lots of evidence, would be simpler to get a chainsaw and chop it down...
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steve m
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 07:49 PM |
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I am not sure of the actual rules, but when next doors tree flops over it branches into my garden I have chainsawd them off
Steve
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 07:49 PM |
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Firstly you can cut anything that grows over your boundary. Obviously to the boundary and no more.
Now, as to killing stuff, I noticed that a patch of grass where I spilt some solvent based shed treatment (like cuprinol 5 star) still hasn't
grown after 18 months. I have it on good authority that celly thinners is pretty good at killing stuff. Drill a deep hole, fill it up, and keep
refilling it. I would drill the main trunk at a 45 degree angle, deep enoughbto reach the centre of the trunk. Well, theoretically of course as it
would be naughty to kill a tree.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 08:02 PM |
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Most trees are copper intolerant especially spruce. A line of copper carpet tacks. Main problem is if you kill it could the dead tree fall on you
property ?
I also belive you can trim any tree branches in you boundary PROVIDING there is no tree preservation orders
ATB agriv8
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Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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Kev99
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 08:22 PM |
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quote:
cliftyhanger
Firstly you can cut anything that grows over your boundary. Obviously to the boundary and no more.
but i also believe u have to give the bits u cut off back to the owner other wise its classed as steeling there property
Kev
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mark chandler
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 08:53 PM |
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Unless it's got a TPO on it cut anything that overhangs your garden and throw it over the fence, otherwise it's classed as theft.
To kill I'd bore a 45 degree hole into the trunk and fill it with diesel
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40inches
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 08:53 PM |
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You can also cut the roots up to the boundary, just be careful nothing falls into the hole you dig. Like copper pipe.
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perksy
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 09:04 PM |
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As above, any branches overhanging your property you can cut them off but must give them to the neighbour.
I don't really like to see trees killed but either copper nails or i've heard central heating oil works well ?
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strikerbird
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 09:20 PM |
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I've heard diesel will do the job, I'm guessing 'round up' pored into a drilled hole wouldn't do it much good either.
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theprisioner
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 09:27 PM |
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Copper roof nail and a centre punch. Once they are countersunk you will never see them till you cut it down.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 09:36 PM |
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All you have to do is ring the bark. , ie. Cut a continuous band of bark right around the tree close to the ground.
It takes about 3 years to kill tree basically it cuts off the flow of sap in the outer layer and the rot gradually spreads inwards.
Initially they tree might look as if it is thriving and throw out new shoots and flower but this is a sign the tree is in distress.
Cutting through the roots unless you do truly massive damage to all the roots won't kill a tree it will only make the tree push out more roots
more green growth and shoots. Brutal root pruning is a technique used to stimulate dormant fruit trees.
Copper it takes a fair amount of copper to kill a decent sized tree an odd nail or two isn't enouggh.
Drilling a hole and injecting battery acid or similar works.
[Edited on 25/3/14 by britishtrident]
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madteg
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 09:42 PM |
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I had the same problem, i knocked 12x4" copper nails in 5 trees. they are still there after 58 years so poison would be better.
I would drill some holes ta 45 deg, fill with ? and then knock a dowel on top.
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Slimy38
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 10:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Agriv8
Main problem is if you kill it could the dead tree fall on you property ?
I think this would be my worry, especially if it takes a while to die but we get a bout of strong winds like recently. Trim them to the boundary?
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rdodger
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 10:19 PM |
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As has already been posted
You can chop off anything over the boundary. I seem to be doing this every other year!
If the tree has fruit on it then that must be returned to the owner.
I would be a bit careful about trying to kill it. These days you could easily end up in court.
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MP3C
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 10:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Unless it's got a TPO on it cut anything that overhangs your garden and throw it over the fence, otherwise it's classed as theft.
To kill I'd bore a 45 degree hole into the trunk and fill it with diesel
This works very well, have got rid of a few trees using this method.
Matt
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ashg
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 11:21 PM |
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i have the same problem with neighbours trees overhanging my workshop roof. i chain saw them off then throw all the chopped off bits back over the
fence, its his tree he can get rid of it.
and as for copper nails, thats a bad idea. if a tree surgeon spots them they will normally refuse to finish the job as they don't want their
saw blade ruined
[Edited on 25/3/2014 by ashg]
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splitrivet
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| posted on 25/3/14 at 11:26 PM |
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One of the trees is growing about 12" from my wall and is about 9" thick likewise the neighbours so god knows what its doing to the
foundations.
Its wrecking his property as well, the overhanging bit of his roof on the gable end has virtually gone, so if the roof starts leaking no doubt it will
affect my property as well.
I have a chainsaw too Mike might just use it and worry about consequences later, Ive done my best to inform him.
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 26/3/14 at 12:11 AM |
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Bre wary, if you destabilise the tree by cutting off all one side and leaving it lop-sided you could well be classed as responsible for it falling
back the other way too.
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nick205
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| posted on 26/3/14 at 12:26 AM |
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As someone said to me once.... Seek forgiveness, don't ask permission.
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ashg
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| posted on 26/3/14 at 08:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
As someone said to me once.... Seek forgiveness, don't ask permission.
you mean sometimes its easier to seek forgiveness rather than ask permission :-)
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 26/3/14 at 08:34 AM |
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+1 for ringing.
Nip over the fence and cut or break off the bark in a complete ring round the trunk. Do it where it wont be obvious, where there are bushes and
shrubs.
When the tree no longer produces leaves ring the council and report it as a hazard to property and life.
Unlike the other options it's always feasible this damage could have been caused by foxes or badgers.
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designer
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| posted on 26/3/14 at 08:49 AM |
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You have no right to damage the neighbours tree, but you do have the right to chop off anything over the boundary
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iank
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| posted on 26/3/14 at 09:02 AM |
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Just to be clear the law says you can cut anything off that over hangs your boundary and you must OFFER the cuttings to the owner. If he
doesn't want them then I understand it's your responsibility to get rid of them (and strictly by the letter you could be considered to be
fly tipping if you just chuck them over to his side - but he'd have to know the law to the letter, want to be especially arsey and have proof it
was you to make trouble at that point).
If a tree is damaging property it doesn't matter that you're in a conservation area as you get pretty much automatic permission to work on
it when you apply (unless it's very special) - make sure you get the formal permissions from the council (most allow you to apply on line - ours
certainly does). and take photos before and after.
As I understand it if damage is being caused then you can claim against him/his insurers - if he refuses to do any work then his insurers (if he has
any) won't be best pleased. Maybe suggesting that as an option to him might change his mind.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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