MK9R
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 posted on 13/5/03 at 09:59 PM |
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Calling all ZX9R becs
Just wondering how many there are of us?
Few Q&A's
1. What year and model of engine
2. What air filter set up
3. What exhaust system
4. What Diff and wheel sizes
5. What type of gear linkage - cable/solid links
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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MK9R
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| posted on 13/5/03 at 10:02 PM |
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1. 1998 C1
2. TTS dome style
3. Chestersportscars Avon/tiger B6 (probably)
4. 3.62 LSD with 15 inch OZ superleggras
5. Solid links using aluminium bars and rose joints.
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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benedict
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| posted on 13/5/03 at 11:14 PM |
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Helooo.
Thought it was about time I joined up to this forum.
So I have done.
In response to the questions:
1. 1999 C2
2. Pipercross foam "sausage"
3. S.T.'s off the shelf ZX9 system
4. 3.62, 185/60-14
5. Solid link
Cheers,
Ben
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locodude
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| posted on 13/5/03 at 11:31 PM |
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1. 1998 C1
2. Butchered & welded std filter & box (fits under bonnet, no holes)
3. Butchered & welded std system + GSXR600 Micron carbon race can
4. 3.54 mk2 escort live axle 13" minilites with 185-70/13 yoko A021r's
5. Solid links using aluminium bars and rose joints.
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sting
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 09:59 AM |
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1.1998 C1
2.None at present
3.Will be std ST
4.3.92LSD 205/50/15
5.ST bar and rose joints
NB could all be subject to change as not completely built yet!
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Jasper
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 11:19 AM |
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Hey chaps:
1. 1999 C2
2. Pipercross super flat P600 (under bonnet) with dynojet kit with biggest jet (which I think is actually the smallest if that makes sense)
3. Standard ST
4. 3.89 Cortina with 195x50x15 with Toyo Proxy's
5. Cable link - seems to work though I've not tested it at speed yet (local car park is too small!)
And welcome Ben, good to see you on here.
[Edited on 14/5/03 by Jasper]
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GJ Warren
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 05:49 PM |
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Hey Guys, I use to log on here but haven't come on-line for a while!
1. 1999 C2
2. Cone filter feeding T2 turbo(similar to Renault GT5) Intercooler than through my own design of intake manifold. (single Throttle)
3. Again custom designed (by myself ) Turbo application.
4. 3.38 diff ratio Sierra with LSD tyres 215X45X16
5. Debate between mechanical rod activation or a friend might build me up a push button system.
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westindy
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 08:20 PM |
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BEC ZX9R Indy
Hi,
Details as follows:-
1. C1 98
2. None yet but single socks from Fisher Sports cars being considered along with stage 1 jetting set.
3. ST MANIFOLD AND BOX ( bit worried about the exhaust being noisy for track days).
4. 3.62 Sierra diff 185.60/14" wheels
5. MK rose jointed alloy tube linkage.
Cheers, Paul
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Wadders
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 09:14 PM |
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1. 1998 C1
2. Pipercross foam jobbie
3. Homemade stainless 4-2-1, Tiger Catalytic converter (temporary) standard GSXR silencer(temporary) Carbon can to follow SVA.
4. 3.62 Sierra LSD with black15 inch TSW blades and Toyo proxes 195x50x15"
5. Solid links using aluminium bars and rose joints.
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Wadders
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 09:22 PM |
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Hi Glen
Sounds an interesting setup, how much more power do you expect the turbo to generate? any chance of posting some pics?
Ta
Wadders
Originally posted by GJ Warren
Hey Guys, I use to log on here but haven't come on-line for a while!
1. 1999 C2
2. Cone filter feeding T2 turbo(similar to Renault GT5) Intercooler than through my own design of intake manifold. (single Throttle)
3. Again custom designed (by myself ) Turbo application.
4. 3.38 diff ratio Sierra with LSD tyres 215X45X16
5. Debate between mechanical rod activation or a friend might build me up a push button system.
[Edited on 14/5/03 by Wadders]
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GJ Warren
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 10:31 PM |
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Hi Wadders, soon hope to be able to upload the pics, problem is i have been taking alot of them in very high res about 800Kb, so i have to reduce
this, quite time consuming. The system is quite complex as i have fitted my own fuel injection system running off cossy injectors, i am going to aim
for 180-200 BHP. I used to drag race bikes and with Nitro we managed 175BHP easily and reliably, on a stock engine. In norway 225BHP kits with turbos
are available, but i doubt the strength of engine and box to take this strain. When everything is up and running about 3 weeks i hope i will give full
details of the whole sysytem.
See ya
Glen
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MK9R
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 06:16 AM |
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Sounds interesting Glen! It should be reasonably quick!
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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GJ Warren
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 10:32 AM |
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Hi Austen, I hope its reasonably quick but after the drag bikes and a few cars i have had the privellage to pilot, it has a hard act to follow thats
the reason for the rather extreme build and careful attention to detail. I will keep you posted on the outcome.
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MK9R
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 02:19 PM |
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what about sumps??
Myself, not sure what to do yet
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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Ninja
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 06:42 PM |
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Home built chasis and suspension, converted over the winter from 1300GT Xflow.
1, ZX9R e1 2000/2001 (From M1 Salvage)
2,Filter TTS dome
3,ST manifold, Techsport repackable silencer.
4,Cortina diff 3.75:1
5,Rod link with pivot mounted on engine cradle.
6, Sump standard with guard fitted.
It went on the TTS rolling road last week and made 120BHP at the wheels after re-jetting. But the biggest improvement was in the mid range power which
at 9500RPM jumped from 85BHP to 115BHP. I thought it was quick before being set up, now it's very very quick and so much more driveable. Does
anyone else have dyno figures?
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benedict
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 07:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninja
Does anyone else have dyno figures?
Yup. My experiences were very similar to yours wrt being RR'ed at TTS, a massive jump in power at c.9.5k and a much better curve.
My dyno plot is here
Cheers,
Ben
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highspeeddirt
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 06:13 PM |
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Had either of you done any work on the carbs before you had TTS do their thing or were they still jetted as on the bike. I can't decide if I
should leave the carbs untouched and just have TTS RR it or fit a Dynojet kit myself.
And for the record
1, C2 1999
2, None yet
3, ST system
4, 3.62 Sierra lsd
5, ST rod linkage
6, ST sump on order
Steve
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benedict
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 08:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by highspeeddirt
Had either of you done any work on the carbs before you had TTS do their thing or were they still jetted as on the bike.
Mine were still as
off the bike, before going to TTS.
I (mostly) took Ian Gray's advice and took it easy untill the TTS session and even though it was too lean it doesn't seem to have done
it any harm.
It didn't half feel better afterwards though 
Cheers,
Ben
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Ben 4x4 Shepperd
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 09:20 PM |
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Okay I know I should be revising but had to come online to get some notes on some books for an english exam on wed and saw this so:
1) 2001 c2
2)?
3)? standard zx9 with r1 can hopefully and a catalitic converter for a week for sva
4)LSD don't know the ratio big sierra ones for the mo hope fully get some nice 15/16" alloys eventually
5)first job after exams solid tho
Cheers guys You lot can get back to building while I have to revise
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Ninja
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| posted on 17/5/03 at 09:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by benedict
quote:
Originally posted by highspeeddirt
Had either of you done any work on the carbs before you had TTS do their thing or were they still jetted as on the bike.
Mine were still as
off the bike, before going to TTS.
I (mostly) took Ian Gray's advice and took it easy untill the TTS session and even though it was too lean it doesn't seem to have done
it any harm.
It didn't half feel better afterwards though
Cheers,
Ben
Same here, carbs left untouched until put on the TTS rollers. The guy there (Kurt) said he was surprised at the original peak power considering how
lean it was. Again no harm appears to have been done, even after running for a couple of hundred miles before re-jetting. Main jet size was actually
reduced, and then the air corrector jet was blocked up to richen up all through the range.
Cheers
Ninja
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GJ Warren
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| posted on 17/5/03 at 02:26 PM |
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Hi ben, dont feel too bad, in two weeks i have to sit for my final exams of University. (B.Commerce Managment), two days before which my car has to be
completed for a Car show. I am sponsored to race locally (Malta) in our hill climb championship by a beer company who are also sponsoring the show.
Its the books during the day and the car at night!!!
Can i ask why everyone is so sure that carbs are the way to go, a well mapped fuel injected blade will always beat a carb model, both in mid range and
max power. There is the argument that the rolling road is expensive when Mapping, but it seems that you all take your carbs for setup as well. If
there are any bikers out there ride the new blade (2003) against a 99 model and see the difference.
See ya Glen
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highspeeddirt
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| posted on 17/5/03 at 11:48 PM |
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Thanks Ben and Ninja. I will be going to TTS after the car is on the road and let them tune it. Another problem solved.
Steve
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Ninja
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| posted on 18/5/03 at 10:02 AM |
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Dyno results
Austen/Ben
Dyno results now in photo archive.
Dave (Ninja)
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benedict
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| posted on 18/5/03 at 05:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by GJ Warren
Can i ask why everyone is so sure that carbs are the way to go, a well mapped fuel injected blade will always beat a carb model, both in mid range and
max power
Cost I think is the simple answer. I definately agree that a fully RR mapped injection system would be better, as would a fully RR
mapped ignition system.
It would certainly be nice to go that way but personally I'd need (being on carbs to start with) a set of TBs and fuel-rail/delivery system an
ECU and a lenghthy RR session to map both fuel and ignition. I don't know the exact costs offhand but suspect it wouldn't be cheap,
though it is tempting as a mini project
Also I suppose that if you're getting say a ZX9 to put in your BEC, if you can afford the extra for the above then it may well move you into or
a lot closer to ZX12 territory which would probably give a bigger power improvement anyway. I suppose then, though, you still end up with the same
temptation to remap
From what I've gathered, as well, the world of bike tuning has seemed less keen to grasp the electronically mapped approach. ISTR that a good
source of TBs is bikers removing them from their engines so they can fit flatside carbs. I could be wrong but this is definately the impression I
have from reading around various forums.
So yes it's better but for convenience and cost, I for one have stuck with carbs (for now anyway!)
Cheers,
Ben
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Jasper
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| posted on 19/5/03 at 07:27 PM |
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Glen
Good piece of simple software to change the size all your pictures in one batch:
Irfanview at http://www.irfanview.com/
I use it all the time for mass coversions of images for my web site.
Use the batch conversion section under 'File'.
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