Irony
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 01:05 PM |
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Viento LT77 Bell Housing, Remote and Clutch
I have started a fresh post for this topic as I hope it might be a reference for other users.
I am currently building a Viento with a 3.9 Rover V8.
Having been through a lot of previous posts I have labelled up the following diagram. I have assumed that the 200TDI parts will fit as per some other
posts on here.
 
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I anyone can point out if I have made some mistakes.
Also I found this website that has some nice piccys of clutch parts and I don't know where some of them go. Could someone help me identify these
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What is the clutch spigot bush and where does it go? (left column, 4th image down)
Clutch Arm Release Rod??? (left column, second from bottom)
Gear Lever Plunger Spring? (Left column, bottom)
Cutch Clamp Rod? (right column, third from bottom)
Gear lever plunger? (right column, bottom)
If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be fabulous?
[Edited on 20/8/10 by Irony]
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AdamR
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 01:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Irony
What is the clutch spigot bush and where does it go? (right column, 4th image down)
Clutch Arm Release Rod??? (left column, second from bottom)
The spigot bush is pressed into the end of the crankshaft, and is used to locate the gearbox input shaft. If your V8 is from a manual donor, then
you'll already have one.
The release rod is what connects the slave cylinder to the release arm.
Other bits are internal gearbox spares as far as I can tell, so you'll be fine without unless you have a specific problem with your
'box.
HTH
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Irony
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 01:18 PM |
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Also I have now somehow managed to get two LT77's. One came with the car and one with the bellhousing I bought. One came from a man of dubious
reputation and the other from a locoster off here who seems a nice fellow. Both came with the saying 'I've not tried it myself but I was
told it was a goodun'.
So I have no way of knowing which is anygood or if any is good at all. They are as follows
19A106516C
 
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The other is 17A0079175D
 
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I know the D coded one is supposed to be the stronger but it's from the dodgy source. Both don't have much play in the input shaft as far
as I can tell and both will select all gears. I don't think the Viento will let you get the gearbox out without taking the engine out so I would
like to make the right desision before I put it all togther.
I did think about contacting gearbox refurbishers (ashcrofts et al) and asking if I could swap two for one and some cash or something?
Any ideas?
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 02:00 PM |
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If you have two boxes and some degree of uncertainty, I would be tempted to take both to a refurbishers and ask them to visually inspect both and then
overhaul the worst box, as they should both be capable of taking the same punishment. But you would then be left with a spare reasonable box that you
could sell on if you wanted, with the knowledge that it should not be that bad a condition.
Oh, and the clutch spigot bush is LEFT column, not right.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 02:09 PM |
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Drain the gearbox oil ( Devils Blood ) out of them and compare it for small bits of metal.
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Irony
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 02:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jollygreengiant
Oh, and the clutch spigot bush is LEFT column, not right.
Aha, you spotted my totally and utterly deliberate mistake. Well done Sir! My hat off to you!
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 02:27 PM |
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 02:28 PM |
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http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID006111
parts list
seem to recall the pluger spring was a pain to fit...
yes this is a tr7 but almost the same as the sd1 .
[Edited on 20/8/10 by Paul (Notts)]
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 02:48 PM |
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quote:
Cutch Clamp Rod? (right column, third from bottom)
holds the plunger that goes from the clutch slave cylinder onto the clutch arm. Very importans not to miss this out.
ie holds the end of the plunger onto the arm but alows it to rotate.
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IanBrace
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 06:35 PM |
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Hi Kev, I can come round and we can pull one apart and inspect it if you like... a manual would help if you have one..
www.aerialphotography.org.uk
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Irony
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 09:13 PM |
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Originally posted by Paul (Notts)
Cheer for that Paul, I spent a while looking on rimmers hoping for that image. I couldn't find it in the SD1 catalogue. That helps a lot.
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Irony
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 09:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by IanBrace
Hi Kev, I can come round and we can pull one apart and inspect it if you like... a manual would help if you have one..
Cheers for that Ian and I might reserve that help for when I drop the V8 in for the first time. I am going to go over that image in detail and I might
purchase a SD1 Manual.
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Irony
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| posted on 20/8/10 at 10:14 PM |
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Just found out that my V8 Lt77 Bellhousing is in fact not a V8 bellhousing. Bugger.
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Irony
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| posted on 21/8/10 at 09:41 AM |
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After spending a couple of hours cleaning the aforementioned bellhousing up last night I thought I'd just have a trial fit. It just
doesn't fit at all. It's not a 4 wheel drive version, I think it must be from some other engine.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 21/8/10 at 12:43 PM |
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As I stated in my earlier posts these boxes were use several other cars and vans with different engines and gear ratios. Might be worth checking the
gear ratios in your box(es) as you could have an LDV box with totally unsuitable ratios
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Irony
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| posted on 22/8/10 at 07:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
As I stated in my earlier posts these boxes were use several other cars and vans with different engines and gear ratios. Might be worth checking the
gear ratios in your box(es) as you could have an LDV box with totally unsuitable ratios
I know these were used in several different vehicles as I have read most peoples previous posts. I bought this box and bell as a SD1 V8. It is very
similar but quite clearly doesn't fit. I think the guy who sold it me was unaware that it was not a V8.
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wilkingj
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| posted on 22/8/10 at 08:04 PM |
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Check the serial number on the machined flat at the bottom of the box. Google LT77 box numbers and it should tell you what it came from.
Somewhere i think I might have a LT77-V8 bell housing.
If you get really stuck, let me know and I will have to tidy up the garage to try and find it
PS... Its a bit of a let down when people tell you its out of a TVR, and you find its from a 2.6 SD1 , still never mind, it works well with a 3.63 LSD
in the tail end and with a V8 up front
EDIT:
Come to think of it, I might even have a spare clutch cover and plate (all new)!
[Edited on 22/8/2010 by wilkingj]
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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