carlknight1982
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| posted on 14/1/11 at 09:45 AM |
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3 Point harnesses IVA ok?
I read in the new CBS catalog that the IVA has been revised to "outlaw" 3 point harnesses
Anyone know how accurate this is before I fit mine.
Logic will get you from a A to B
Imagination will take you everywhere.
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gdp66
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| posted on 14/1/11 at 10:03 AM |
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if you look at the IVA manual, it reads as if static 3 point belts aren't allowed.
But inertia 3 points are.
But I did pass my IVA last April with static 3-point belts.
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carlknight1982
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| posted on 14/1/11 at 10:15 AM |
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so would a 3 point harness be classed as a static belt? i suppose it would.
Logic will get you from a A to B
Imagination will take you everywhere.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 14/1/11 at 04:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gdp66
if you look at the IVA manual, it reads as if static 3 point belts aren't allowed.
But inertia 3 points are.
But I did pass my IVA last April with static 3-point belts.
I cant see anything that states static 3 points arent allowed.
Care to clarify your thoughts?
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loggyboy
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| posted on 14/1/11 at 04:41 PM |
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Section 31 Table Note 4
an acceptable alternative to any of the seat belt types listed is an adult harness belt comprising a lap belt and shoulder straps providing the
anchorages satisfy section 19
Table in section 19 shows 3 Anchorage points required for front outboard seats.
[Edited on 14/1/11 by loggyboy]
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minitici
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| posted on 15/1/11 at 12:13 PM |
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As above re. harnesses are OK for IVA.
However if you are going to use your car in MSA competitions you are no longer allowed 3 point harnesses.
(i.e. - where the shoulder straps join into one and there is only one mounting.)
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Macbeast
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| posted on 16/1/11 at 12:17 AM |
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One of my fail points was I only had static 3-point belts. You need to have the self-adjusting 3-point belts or 4-point fixed.
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 16/1/11 at 12:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
One of my fail points was I only had static 3-point belts. You need to have the self-adjusting 3-point belts or 4-point fixed.
Can you confirm where the manual states this?
When the fail you do they just state, or do they quote/give reference to clarify their judgement?
[Edited on 16/1/11 by loggyboy]
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/1/11 at 12:43 AM |
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Any one know if this is standard or just one vosa center's interpratation ?
I have had enough of moving goal posts.
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Macbeast
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| posted on 16/1/11 at 06:38 AM |
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Fail sheet says
" each seat requiring a belt must be fitted with a seat belt of the appropriate type as detailed in Annex 1 of Section 31 of the IVA M1
inspection manual
with the seat belt fastened and the seat unoccupied retractor mechanisms must take up any excess webbing
A retractor mechanism must be correctly positioned to ensure the correct operation of the belt "
Looking at the IVA manual -
" TABLE NOTE 4: The table lists the minimum required belt type. A 3 point retractor belt may be fitted where the minimum required is a 2 point
lap belt and an acceptable alternative to any of the seat belt types listed is an adult harness belt comprising a lap belt and shoulder straps
providing the anchorages satisfy section 19 "
Note 6: Some types of retracting belt might need help before they retract and harness belts due to their design will not retract however excess
webbing must be secured.
[Edited on 16/1/11 by Macbeast]
[Edited on 16/1/11 by Macbeast]
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 19/1/11 at 12:48 PM |
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Ok thanks for the info macbeast. I couldnt get hold of Vosa so bassed on tyhe above ive chopped my roll bar about and fitted 4 points.
cheers
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