Autosri
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 04:19 PM |
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Tax disc stolen / new location ?
Been cleaning the car today and found out somebody has stolen the tax disc off the window so been reported to police but still a little fed up but
what can you do
So that leads to the question where have you put your tax disk in you kit cars all I can find on the direct gov site is preferably on the window but
can be on the curb side of the veichle
Thanks guys
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loggyboy
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 04:22 PM |
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keep it in your wallet, 99% of tax check is done electronically now anyway.
We called in a car that was untaxed on my wifes parents steet a few years back, the DLVA told us it was ok as it was taxed, even the the one displayed
showed it was out by 6 months. They didnt care at all!
Mistral Motorsport
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Davg
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 04:26 PM |
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Couple of quid gets you a tamper proof holder of the Bay of E. or use a bike tax disc holder bolted on. Not to say some little scrote wont unbolt it
but less likely.
cheers
D
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Dave Ashurst
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 04:27 PM |
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Mine is in a motorbike tax disc holder, bolted through the scuttle on the kerb side of the car.
Same system for 10 years and has been no problem.
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 04:28 PM |
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The legal location for the VED Disc (Vehicle Excise Duty) is 'No more than 7" (Seven Inches) up on the Nearside edge of the
Windscreen'.
I don't think there is a 'Legal' location for vehicles without a windscreen (although someone on here wil probably know differently)
except that it should be displayed to the Nearside of the vehicle.
edit bit
The Police used to prosecute a driver for 'Failure to Display a current Tax disc' not for failure to own one.
[Edited on 25/5/12 by jollygreengiant]
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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Westy1994
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 04:30 PM |
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I had the same thing happen last year, although I had mine fastened inside one of those alloy holders that they use on motorbikes, this was then
fastened to the car with a builders type coach bolt, so no head slot or method of undoing was easy, unless you took all dash off to get to the nut on
the back.
Never stopped them though, they just snapped the alloy holder off at the point it narrows.
Costs £7 for a replacement tax disc as well, not to mention the time off the road, the poilce said I would be unable to drive it as there was no tax
disc on show, despite the car still having over 5 months tax to run !!!!!!!!!!!!, how stupid is that.........
I ended up getting another alloy type ( as they are waterproof), and instead of using just the bracket to mount it, I cut the bracket off and used the
bolt holes you use to insert the disc into the holder and fasten that to the car, again using hidden head screws and hard to get to the otherside to
remove it, took me two hours just to fit it. They would now have to get a grinder and cut a hole out to remove it.
I think because of 'our' cars open nature, any form of disc holder has to be at risk.
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owelly
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 04:42 PM |
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I laminate mine and attached it to my battery isolator key ring. I did have a dash made from clear perspex but the reverse side of it was sprayed
black so it looked black and shiny from the front. During spraying it, I left an old tax disc blu-tac'd to the back and that was my tax disc
holder. To change it, you had to put your arm up behind the dash and find a slot in the back of the scuttle.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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jimgiblett
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 04:50 PM |
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I have used the tamper proof discs for years. Removing them is a bit of a pain but nice and secure.
Linky here
- Jim
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Peteff
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 05:07 PM |
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On my bike I have always glued the disc into the holder so it would have to be destroyed to remove it. I used the same method on the Locost.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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D Beddows
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 05:12 PM |
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quote:
I did have a dash made from clear perspex but the reverse side of it was sprayed black so it looked black and shiny from the front. During spraying
it, I left an old tax disc blu-tac'd to the back and that was my tax disc holder. To change it, you had to put your arm up behind the dash and
find a slot in the back of the scuttle.
I have to say that is a rather wonderful idea!! obviously rather hard to do retrospectively but even so!
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blakep82
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 05:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
quote:
I did have a dash made from clear perspex but the reverse side of it was sprayed black so it looked black and shiny from the front. During spraying
it, I left an old tax disc blu-tac'd to the back and that was my tax disc holder. To change it, you had to put your arm up behind the dash and
find a slot in the back of the scuttle.
I have to say that is a rather wonderful idea!! obviously rather hard to do retrospectively but even so!
cut a hole in the dash, and stick a bit of perspex beind the hole, maybe? i might do that actually... i've got some spare holes in the dash
needing filling... 
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CRAIGR
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 05:36 PM |
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Keep it in your wallet as said.
Failing to display carries a small fine i believe which in my years of dealing with the dvla and doing operations with them they never once bothered
about it and merely checked to see if a vehicle. was currently taxed.
In this day and age with modern technology its so easy to check that the disc itself has almost become immaterial, the same with insurance which is
why you can just print your certificate from home now.
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snapper
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 06:01 PM |
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Why would anyone nick a tax disc, as said its all electronic, if you use someone else's disc you'll still get nicked for no disc, failing
to display and attempted fraud.
I use bike tax disc holder attached to mirror stem
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 06:18 PM |
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This is where I used to have my disc - it was a bike disc holder with the mounting arm cut off. Six holes were drilled into the scuttle and the whole
thing fixed with hex-head bolts and nylok nuts behind.
 
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Now I've got a windscreen, so I use one of these: Secur-i-disc (the round black one).
It's quite hard to get it off the screen in the first place, and if you try to get the covering film off you'll trash the disc
completely.
[Edited on 25/5/12 by David Jenkins]
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Westy1994
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 06:31 PM |
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Thats exactly what I did David, unless you have a grinder to hand, its hard to steal.
Like you I have now re-fitted a full screen from aero, so keep the posts coming as to the best methods
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Westy1994
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 06:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
Why would anyone nick a tax disc, as said its all electronic, if you use someone else's disc you'll still get nicked for no disc, failing
to display and attempted fraud.
I use bike tax disc holder attached to mirror stem
I don't really know to be honest, as you say its all checkable at the click of a mouse these days, all I can assume though, they stole it to
either fool any police or whoever when walking past, or sold it... Who knows what these losers do with them !!!!.
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Autosri
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 06:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
Why would anyone nick a tax disc, as said its all electronic, if you use someone else's disc you'll still get nicked for no disc, failing
to display and attempted fraud.
I use bike tax disc holder attached to mirror stem
thanks for all the surgestions guys i have ordered a motorbike style one to try and mount somewhere
the only reasons i see is can you still cash them in or is that not possible now or maybe stick it in your car and at a glance it still has a current
tax disk as the date is in large print but the reg number is small so not as noticable
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Westy1994
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 06:49 PM |
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I dont think they can cash them in, I asked this question when I contacted DVLA as I was concerned they may have done that - it was about a week till
I noticed it missing , the car reg number is registered to my house, so by cashing it in, they would just be sending ME the money and not the folks
who nicked it.
If you dont mind drilling 6 small 5mm holes in your car as myself and David Jenkins had done , then do that if you can, failing that hide it inside
the car out of view, I am sure the police or whoever must get this a lot with our cars.
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johnwilders
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 07:50 PM |
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How about sticking it under a bit of anti chip film on the side of the body.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 09:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Now I've got a windscreen, so I use one of these: Secur-i-disc (the round black one).
It's quite hard to get it off the screen in the first place, and if you try to get the covering film off you'll trash the disc
completely.
I don't understand how these prevent the disc being stolen if it's possible for you to peel it off the windscreen?
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owelly
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| posted on 25/5/12 at 09:56 PM |
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You can see mine to the side of this piccy..
[Edited on 25/5/12 by owelly]
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 26/5/12 at 02:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Now I've got a windscreen, so I use one of these: Secur-i-disc (the round black one).
It's quite hard to get it off the screen in the first place, and if you try to get the covering film off you'll trash the disc
completely.
I don't understand how these prevent the disc being stolen if it's possible for you to peel it off the windscreen?
Yes your right Mike, they don't work, I had one fitted on my Aries when I bought it, I peeled it off, it did not damage the tax disc at all, I
am going to fit it in a motorcycle type holder now.
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Dave Ashurst
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| posted on 4/6/12 at 07:26 AM |
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Which is worst: having a tax disc but not displaying it, or having a tax disc, keeping it somewhere safe and displaying a photocopy of it?
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 4/6/12 at 09:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by PAUL FISHER
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Now I've got a windscreen, so I use one of these: Secur-i-disc (the round black one).
It's quite hard to get it off the screen in the first place, and if you try to get the covering film off you'll trash the disc
completely.
I don't understand how these prevent the disc being stolen if it's possible for you to peel it off the windscreen?
Yes your right Mike, they don't work, I had one fitted on my Aries when I bought it, I peeled it off, it did not damage the tax disc at all, I
am going to fit it in a motorcycle type holder now.
You can peel it off the screen - with difficulty - but you can't get at the disc to change the lettering or whatever. No, it doesn't
prevent some pillock from nicking it, but it does stop them 're-using' it on another car.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 4/6/12 at 10:12 AM |
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We have fixed ours to the rear bulkhead between the seats using bolts. To get to the nuts securing it, you have to be able to access the boot.
 
Richbrook
 
Tax Disc
Phil
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