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bi22le

posted on 5/2/17 at 10:07 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry for the OT: What burglar Alarm do you have? !?

I'm in the market to fit a new one as Im decorating my house.

I am completely open to recommendations of make and type.

In my head I would like one that has wireless sensors for easy fitment and to rig the garage up. Also some sort of mobile phone alert system.

It does not need to be CCTV but if it's for a good price I would take it.

So what do the LCB Oracle suggest. Any other nuggets of info?

Oh and I would love a dog but me and the lady have a busy lifestyle to give a dog what it deserves.

[Edited on 5/2/17 by bi22le]





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loggyboy

posted on 5/2/17 at 10:42 PM Reply With Quote
I just went for cctv, have been considering alarm but saving for a new front and rear doors instead.





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trextr7monkey

posted on 5/2/17 at 11:16 PM Reply With Quote
Daughter has just got a house and had a quote from Yale which seemed to do as much as you want with sensors on door and around house and panic button's with bells outside.It can be linked to phone but I haven't got details here Can be extended and they do some sort of maintenance contract. Nothing to compare it to apart from the Diy kits they sell which are a lower spec apparently. For 4 bed house it's best part of £800 I would welcome any views as to the value of the system.





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se7ensport

posted on 5/2/17 at 11:32 PM Reply With Quote
I used a company in Bristol called Omega Fire and Security, they installed a multi key pad set up so that i can arm or disarm the system from the front door, back door or garage. It has 4 different zones configured that operate independently ; I can have the garage armed at all times, but when the kids go downstairs in the morning they can turn off the house alarm without impacting the garage; it took a while to work out the logic but it's all controlled via rfid tags and I can access current status via the app and where necessary arm or disarm or exclude sensors.
It also has the ability to integrate cctv which records from multiple triggers including alarm.
Cost wise about £1.2k plus annual maintenance of£100. Having been burgled at our old house and a recent increase in local incidents this was the only system that met all of my needs, from day one of installation my sleep has improved!

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SJ

posted on 6/2/17 at 08:03 AM Reply With Quote
I've got one of the Friedland Response wireless alarms on our current house. We had a similar wired alarm on the last house.

The wireless one is OK but the batteries need replacing every 12 months and the external siren need to be in a good spot to get enough light for the solar charger.

I would much rather have a wired system but the hasse of running alarm cable in a newly decorated house wasn't worth it for me.

I view it as much as a deterrent rather than something to actually stop a burglar. I also have some IP cameras that alert if they detect movement when we a are away, and a dog that can detect movement from 200 yards and bark in the middle of the night when we are at home, which is great when we get badgers in the garden every night!

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Adam

posted on 6/2/17 at 09:59 AM Reply With Quote
Ive fitted a Yale Wireless alarm to my house. Fitted extra sensors, panic buttons etc etc. No false alarms and seems to work ok. Connected to the phone line so rings me if it goes off plus i can control it via a phone call. I also have the Yale CCTV system, i can watch my cameras on my iPhone. I have a camera in my garage watching my car sad i know lol

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r1_pete

posted on 6/2/17 at 10:11 AM Reply With Quote
As Loggy said, cctv is is much better deterrent, alarms are so common now people just assune one sounding is a falsie, and are more likely to moan about the noise than actually check for any wrong doing. Thieves look for live cctv, if thet see it, its seen them, at night they need to be in view of the camera to check for the infra red glow.
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David Jenkins

posted on 6/2/17 at 12:40 PM Reply With Quote
This is on my mind at the moment, as next-door got broken into last week - at around 11:00am on a weekday. He did their place, breaking his way through a double-glazed door, went to another house and got disturbed, so did a runner. The police closed the A12 for about 15 minutes as he'd been seen walking down the wrong way. When they caught up with him he threatened them with a meat cleaver! I guess he then got tazered or pepper-sprayed. Last I heard the magistrates had already remanded him, ready for a Crown Court appearance. Not someone I'd like to encounter in my house...

Apparently the police were quite keen to talk with him about a large number of break-ins in Colchester and south Suffolk...

[Edited on 6/2/17 by David Jenkins]






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spiderman

posted on 6/2/17 at 07:39 PM Reply With Quote
I always recommend putting your siren/bell inside the building you want to protect. Everyone will ignore an external alarm, except the owner of the property. However 120dB+ in a confined space will disorientate the intruder and make him/her want to vacate the area as soon as possible. The same applies to car alarms, don't put the siren under the bonnet put it under the dash. Try it for yourself and you will see how disturbing/disorientating noise can be at the right levels.





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bi22le

posted on 6/2/17 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spiderman
I always recommend putting your siren/bell inside the building you want to protect. Everyone will ignore an external alarm, except the owner of the property. However 120dB+ in a confined space will disorientate the intruder and make him/her want to vacate the area as soon as possible. The same applies to car alarms, don't put the siren under the bonnet put it under the dash. Try it for yourself and you will see how disturbing/disorientating noise can be at the right levels.


We did this in my mum and dads house. I put one right by the alarm box so when then go to try and smash it \ disarm it then it will kill their ears.

This was under the stairs and when it went off it actually hurt the ears from anywhere in the 3 bed semi house!

Thanks for the replies and recommendations. I may consider CCTV, but it is a whole lot more work and maintenance. Maybe just put stickers up as a deterrent!!





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UncleFista

posted on 7/2/17 at 12:09 AM Reply With Quote
My brother bought and fitted one of these , you can extend it with more sensors, it's wireless and has the phone thingy you want. And for the price...

Edit: He's very impressed with it.

[Edited on 7/2/17 by UncleFista]





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Myke 2463

posted on 7/2/17 at 09:50 AM Reply With Quote
Good find Tony, well impressed.





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SteveWallace

posted on 7/2/17 at 02:28 PM Reply With Quote
If you're going to put a sensor in the garage then, unless your garage looks like an F1 factory floor, get a specialist harsh environment sensor. These tend to operate on a dual sensor basis (PIR and microwave I think) so that you don't get false alarms due to the dusty/spidery environment - at least that's what my alarm installer told me, and it seems to work.
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spiderman

posted on 7/2/17 at 07:33 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
quote:
Originally posted by spiderman
I always recommend putting your siren/bell inside the building you want to protect. Everyone will ignore an external alarm, except the owner of the property. However 120dB+ in a confined space will disorientate the intruder and make him/her want to vacate the area as soon as possible. The same applies to car alarms, don't put the siren under the bonnet put it under the dash. Try it for yourself and you will see how disturbing/disorientating noise can be at the right levels.


We did this in my mum and dads house. I put one right by the alarm box so when then go to try and smash it disarm it then it will kill their ears.

This was under the stairs and when it went off it actually hurt the ears from anywhere in the 3 bed semi house!

Thanks for the replies and recommendations. I may consider CCTV, but it is a whole lot more work and maintenance. Maybe just put stickers up as a deterrent!!



If you want a deterrent I suggest BFD (big ------- dog) cost more in maintenance/running costs but it is also portable and good for giving you exercise.





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gdische

posted on 8/2/17 at 01:00 PM Reply With Quote
You do need a box outside to show there is an alarm. When we got burgled, ours was the only house in the road without an alarm!

We now have a system with wireless sensors and a phone link. And I have CCTV too.

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skydivepaul

posted on 8/2/17 at 07:34 PM Reply With Quote
My company installs CCTV and intruder alarms and although we do mainly commercial I would recommend a visonic powermax kit for a domestic install



you can add sensors to the kit as many as you need

You should be looking to pay £500 - £600 for an installed system

If you can build a car and do the electrics then you will be able to fit a visonic kit

As already stated make sure you have a working siren visible in a prominent position on the house.
Also make sure you have at least one (preferably two) internal loud sirens that sound when the alarm is triggered.

Most burglars will leg it as soon as all hell breaks loose

CCTV is a good option also but I would have an alarm first and CCTV second. You don't want to watch the burglars taking all your stuff away!!!

powermax website link

[Edited on 8/2/17 by skydivepaul]





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bi22le

posted on 8/2/17 at 09:05 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for this. I know a few people that have visonic systems so I think this is the one for me.

I may u2u you if I have a question. I'd this ok?




quote:
Originally posted by skydivepaul
My company installs CCTV and intruder alarms and although we do mainly commercial I would recommend a visonic powermax kit for a domestic install



you can add sensors to the kit as many as you need

You should be looking to pay £500 - £600 for an installed system

If you can build a car and do the electrics then you will be able to fit a visonic kit

As already stated make sure you have a working siren visible in a prominent position on the house.
Also make sure you have at least one (preferably two) internal loud sirens that sound when the alarm is triggered.

Most burglars will leg it as soon as all hell breaks loose

CCTV is a good option also but I would have an alarm first and CCTV second. You don't want to watch the burglars taking all your stuff away!!!

powermax website link

[Edited on 8/2/17 by skydivepaul]






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skydivepaul

posted on 8/2/17 at 10:15 PM Reply With Quote
yes no problem





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motorcycle_mayhem

posted on 9/2/17 at 09:19 AM Reply With Quote
Texecom V8C Burglar Alarm Kit - I've installed two of these (one in the house, one in the garage). It's a hard-wired basic system that errr.... works well (or has so far).

The only problem, realised when testing and accidental activation, is that it's basically ignored by everybody. I guess the noise may well get the scum to walk away, but that's all I could rely on.

I also have two complete Swann CCTV systems, again a cheap, basic thing. Each unit runs two external audio cameras, which are superb.... any metal thieves, etc., looking in, get an audio warning as they approach the garage or house. They quickly turn and walk away.

In the Land of the Free, you can shoot these people. I our society, you have to ensure that they can walk around your property with reference to Health and Safety.


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SteveWallace

posted on 9/2/17 at 09:26 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by motorcycle_mayhem


In the Land of the Free, you can shoot these people. I our society, you have to ensure that they can walk around your property with reference to Health and Safety.




Someone I know caught a burglar in the act the other night and the burglar got a wack over the head with something hard for his trouble. The police traced the burglar and arrested him based on a match with the bloody hand print he left on the door on his way out (and his head wound)!! They were fine with the 'self defence' that the home owner used.

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bi22le

posted on 9/2/17 at 08:40 PM Reply With Quote
Yup the laws changed a couple of years back. You are allowed to defend your property, and certainly defend yourself.

The issue is when you chase them down the road and across the fields to then slam theirs head in their own car door a couple of times. . .

quote:
Originally posted by SteveWallace
quote:
Originally posted by motorcycle_mayhem


In the Land of the Free, you can shoot these people. I our society, you have to ensure that they can walk around your property with reference to Health and Safety.




Someone I know caught a burglar in the act the other night and the burglar got a wack over the head with something hard for his trouble. The police traced the burglar and arrested him based on a match with the bloody hand print he left on the door on his way out (and his head wound)!! They were fine with the 'self defence' that the home owner used.






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David Jenkins

posted on 9/2/17 at 10:06 PM Reply With Quote
It all comes down to "reasonable force" - if the burglar isn't scared off when he sees you, and starts to attack, then you can do whatever's necessary to protect yourself and your family. If he/she runs off then your options are greatly reduced. Unnecessary violence will get you arrested.






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bi22le

posted on 4/3/17 at 12:43 AM Reply With Quote
Well, a local friend was robbed mid week and I have no got a bunch of gypsies with their caravans living 2 roads away. They have already been knocking on doors asking if we want jobs done. . . . .

This weekend I will be getting some home security!





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David Jenkins

posted on 10/3/17 at 09:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
This is on my mind at the moment, as next-door got broken into last week - at around 11:00am on a weekday. He did their place, breaking his way through a double-glazed door, went to another house and got disturbed, so did a runner. The police closed the A12 for about 15 minutes as he'd been seen walking down the wrong way. When they caught up with him he threatened them with a meat cleaver! I guess he then got tazered or pepper-sprayed. Last I heard the magistrates had already remanded him, ready for a Crown Court appearance. Not someone I'd like to encounter in my house...

Apparently the police were quite keen to talk with him about a large number of break-ins in Colchester and south Suffolk...




Found out today that this nice person has just been given 10 years...

Ipswich Star

I love the last line... "Philip Misner for Preston said although his client had a meat cleaver he hadn’t used it to hurt anyone." WHAT!?






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bi22le

posted on 10/3/17 at 10:27 PM Reply With Quote
Ill keep you all posted.

I bought a visonic house alarm and Y Cam cloud camera. Both had very good reviews and offered what I wanted.

Im installing them tomorrow.





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