angliamotorsport
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 08:47 AM |
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payloads on vans
Hi All,
I am/was interested in buying one of those 3 axle minibus/van vehicles and having checked the internal dims, it would be capable of carrying my race
car inside.
No more trailer, and with an awning fitted, the car could sit under it while I enjoyed some relative comfort inside the vehicle, suitably fitted
out.
However, when I asked the guy who was selling it to give me the gross vehicle weight and the curb weight so that I could work out the payload, he gave
me answers to questions I had not asked.
To clarify, this is a minbus fitted with seats, so may comply with different rules, but I always thought that whatever type the vehicle was, the gross
vehicle weight could not be exceeded. So was I asking the correct question regarding the weights or had I got it wrong.
I would be interested to hear any comments, thanks.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 09:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by angliamotorsport
I always thought that whatever type the vehicle was, the gross vehicle weight could not be exceeded.
I believe thats correct, but most folk buying a minibus don't want to take the seats out so you've probably confused him 
[Edited on 22/11/2013 by mcerd1]
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 09:08 AM |
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What's the make and model? Can then look it up!
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 09:20 AM |
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off topic but sort of on, I've always wondered about the cornering loads placed on the wheel bearings on this type of vehicle, then again I
guess its no different to a double axle trailer, but what about triple axle trailers, they must be a right pita to manoeuvre ?
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owelly
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 09:27 AM |
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Most, if not all, commercials have the axle weights plated somewhere. As long as you don't exceed those, you'll be OK.
Manouvering multi-axle trailers is easier done with the jockey wheel fully retracted so the trailer runs on the front axle, or fully extended so it
runs on the rear axle.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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angliamotorsport
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 09:31 AM |
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Hi Ben,
The make is Citroen Relay 1999, 2.5 diesel.
I guess a Rohill conversion but it does not say on the ad.
Yes, I probably have confused the poor guy...oops.
Plan was to strip out the interior, raise the roof and use as car transporter/horsebox.
Horse to wear a nappy.
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 09:55 AM |
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LWB 2.4TD Minibus (15 Seat) (1575Kg)
3700 mm
2465 mm
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1575 kg payload
LWB 2.4TD Minibus (17 Seat) (1575Kg)
3700 mm
2465 mm
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1575 kg payload
Is it one of those?
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davidimurray
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 10:04 AM |
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Might be of interest -
http://www.austengreenway.co.uk/search/label/Disco%20Bus
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 10:04 AM |
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I ran a fleet of Talbot express freeways many years ago, tri axle vehicles 24 seaters, can't remember all the details now as it was back in
1989, but something like 2200kgs for that size of bus comes to mind. But working on the average person's body weight around 77kg's, x24
seats gives 1848kg's, so its payload would be set higher than this for safety, around + 20%, so something like 2200kgs. I think the Rohills are
smaller seating between 14/17 with wheel chair space etc, if they are smaller ,I would guess around 1600kgs payload
How many seats does it have, work it out 77kgs per seat + 20% give you a good idea anyway, you should not get near it with just a seven in the back
with a few tools and fuel etc, even with a bit of a bed conversion etc.
[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]
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jacko
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 01:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by angliamotorsport
Hi Ben,
The make is Citroen Relay 1999, 2.5 diesel.
I guess a Rohill conversion but it does not say on the ad.
Yes, I probably have confused the poor guy...oops.
Plan was to strip out the interior, raise the roof and use as car transporter/horsebox.
Horse to wear a nappy.
A mini bus floor will not take the weight of a horse they only have 12mm ply + lino and the x bearers are to wide apart
I use to build horse boxes for the police
Jacko
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angliamotorsport
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 01:17 PM |
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No worries, was planning to replace with ali interlocking planks, exactly what I used on my horsebox builds.
We don't want a dangling leg!!! otherwise the boss will kill me......slowly.
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angliamotorsport
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 01:26 PM |
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There are 13/14 seats, so at 77kgs per seat that makes 1078kgs plus 20%, makes a total of1293.6 kgs, more than enough.
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CNHSS1
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 01:55 PM |
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u2u Jim Spencer. He has had and currently uses, a couple of converted minibuses to carry his Striker and Reynard single seaters. really nice job too
"Racing is life, everything else, before or after, is just waiting"---Steve McQueen
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angliamotorsport
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 02:11 PM |
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Thanks cnhss1 ave done. Cheers
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JimSpencer
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 04:08 PM |
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Hi
Have replied to your U2U
There is also a pic of each vehicle in my archive if that's any use.
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angliamotorsport
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| posted on 22/11/13 at 04:27 PM |
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Thanks, I have replied. Cheers.
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