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Banana

posted on 6/2/17 at 09:40 PM Reply With Quote
Ebay roll cage

Any thoughts or experiences with this guy?

Looks reasonable to me.

Mk Indy Roll Cage (Kit car, caterham, westfield, race rally)

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loggyboy

posted on 6/2/17 at 09:45 PM Reply With Quote
It would seem the spec hes talking about wouldn't be Msa compliant (not doing down to base of chassis)
But could be reading it wrong.
Should be ok for road use but would defo want to see some bona-fide examples of their work.

Eta
Looking at further pics it is ok.

[Edited on 6-2-17 by loggyboy]





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Banana

posted on 6/2/17 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
If that is the case, he should change his description.
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loggyboy

posted on 6/2/17 at 10:19 PM Reply With Quote
Just looked at the photos, it does indeed go to base of chasis, and only has one bend (failing point on original mk cages) so does in fact look msa compliant.





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mark chandler

posted on 6/2/17 at 11:04 PM Reply With Quote
Looks compatible to me, the oddity of the rules allows you to drop the 2" CDS tube onto 1" ERW provided you have a spreader plate.
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CosKev3

posted on 7/2/17 at 06:50 AM Reply With Quote
Expensive isn't it though?

1049+VAT for a bare/unpainted/powder coated full cage

[Edited on 7/2/17 by CosKev3]

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loggyboy

posted on 7/2/17 at 08:10 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Looks compatible to me, the oddity of the rules allows you to drop the 2" CDS tube onto 1" ERW provided you have a spreader plate.


Where's that noted? Ive only ever seen CDS Quoted in the blue book.





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Mash

posted on 7/2/17 at 08:40 AM Reply With Quote
This is a guy who has an Indy of his own, and had difficulty getting a cage elsewhere. He contacted MSA for advice and using his own business fabricated a cage to satisfy the blue book. He has been offering the deal on FB for some time:

Island Sheet Metal

If there is a cheaper compliant alternative, I'd be pleased to know as I'm considering buying one

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CosKev3

posted on 7/2/17 at 09:09 AM Reply With Quote
Caged Westfield cages are cheaper fully powder coated, so you could try them for a quote.

http://www.racespeccages.co.uk/#

Or try them

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Banana

posted on 7/2/17 at 10:47 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Expensive isn't it though?

1049+VAT for a bare/unpainted/powder coated full cage

[Edited on 7/2/17 by CosKev3]


Yes, just re read the website - it is 440 for the half cage alone.
In that case, i'd be better going direct to Mk themselves

They quoted me around 600 supplied and fitted.
Not sure if it is MSA spec though.

[Edited on 7/2/17 by Banana]

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CosKev3

posted on 7/2/17 at 10:50 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Banana
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Expensive isn't it though?

1049+VAT for a bare/unpainted/powder coated full cage

[Edited on 7/2/17 by CosKev3]



Eh? Its 440..


Nah,its a crap/misleading advert!

Look at the pics,his prices are on there

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Mash

posted on 8/2/17 at 08:27 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Caged Westfield cages are cheaper fully powder coated, so you could try them for a quote.

http://www.racespeccages.co.uk/#

Or try them


Thanks Kev, I'll give them a call later this month and see what they say

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Adamirish

posted on 8/2/17 at 09:39 PM Reply With Quote
Plays-kool do a half cage for the widebody westfield, i would assume it wouldn't be a mile away from fitting an Indy for 260.

Anybody know if it would be anywhere close to fitting an Indy?

440+vat seems expensive to me with it not being powder coated/painted. It's only 1 bent tube and 2 straight tubes welded together. Maybe I am just be unrealistic though. If that was a fitted price then fair enough.





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Matt21

posted on 8/2/17 at 10:25 PM Reply With Quote
The MK ones aren't MSA compliant.

Thats the whole reason this guy is making his own to sell. MK have been using ERW tube for their cages, which is not up to MSA specs
For road/track use it's fine. But for racing you'll need one made from CDS tube (which is a lot more expensive)





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Smokey mow

posted on 8/2/17 at 10:55 PM Reply With Quote
I can reccomend this company which are not too far from you.

http://www.mjsfabrication.co.uk/roll-cages

Both the Westfield and the single seater hoop on their website are mine

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mark chandler

posted on 8/2/17 at 11:20 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Looks compatible to me, the oddity of the rules allows you to drop the 2" CDS tube onto 1" ERW provided you have a spreader plate.


Where's that noted? Ive only ever seen CDS Quoted in the blue book.


Just an observation, the cage is dictated by the blue book along with the base plates and any bolts you use, the car it lands on is not.

When you look at some cage designs that comply the rear stays drop onto the top of the rear tub! Perfectly legal although not the best place to land it although rear stay angle may force it.

Cheers Mark

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