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ken555

posted on 25/9/19 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by lsdweb
I called into the local Lidl this evening. No impact wrenches but they did have some mini air powered die grinders on sale :-)


Doesn't it start on Thursday ?






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ReMan

posted on 25/9/19 at 06:30 PM Reply With Quote
Ys it does.
I've decided I'm going to be there ar=t 8.00 and try an get one!

Figured ig it does 90% of what i want them its a bargain, if its crap its going back!





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lsdweb

posted on 25/9/19 at 06:42 PM Reply With Quote
Ah. Didn't realise it was a special thing on Thursday. I'll try and get down there in the morning!
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chris

posted on 26/9/19 at 06:30 PM Reply With Quote
i have the makita 18v 3/4 drive wrench i just use a 3/4 to 1/2 inch reducer as a truck mechanic i use it all the time i already had the batteries and charger so just brought the impact wrench bare for 220
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ReMan

posted on 26/9/19 at 06:48 PM Reply With Quote
UPDATE!
Picked the Lidl one up at 8.00 this morning.
The good news is its a great kit for the money.
The bad news is its a useless
It wouldn't undo my Porsche wheel nuts, so its going back in the morning!

ATEOTHD If I have to break everything by hand first, then I can do that now with my battery drill and a " adaptor, so I'm gaining nothing.
Sorry for the bad review!!

[Edited on 26/9/19 by ReMan]





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procomp

posted on 28/9/19 at 01:42 PM Reply With Quote
Having had most of the impact wrenches on the market over the last 20 Years the only one i would highley recommend is the Ryobi.
Admittedly i have 4 batteries and 2 chargers as i have other Ryobi kit but the impact wrench and drill are in constant use both in workshop and race meetings. The one thing that does impress me is the battery life and the performance. with the lithium battery fully charge it achieves 82LbFt torque tightening up and doesn't drop until battery drops to fully empty. Happily undo nuts that i know are at 100LbFt but not paid much attention to any higher figures as i usually use manual equipment for things like sierra hub nuts Etc

Matt

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miskit

posted on 29/9/19 at 09:56 AM Reply With Quote
pfff I expect your Porsche alloy lugs are tightened to around the 100Nm mark so if it will not pull that off then it is useless - thanks for the info as I had been debating getting one myself.
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ReMan

posted on 29/9/19 at 12:05 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by miskit
pfff I expect your Porsche alloy lugs are tightened to around the 100Nm mark so if it will not pull that off then it is useless - thanks for the info as I had been debating getting one myself.


That was my feeling.
They are alloy nuts! , spec is 130 Nm.
I was the last one to do them up over a year or so ago so even if i gave it a little bit more for luck, then add in corrosion and say 200.
If it cant fetch them off then its pointless.
I undid them with a 12" bar without standing on it!

I'm looking for something thats going to do that work for me!





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skydivepaul

posted on 9/10/19 at 11:10 AM Reply With Quote
I'm also looking for a battery impact wrench as my weedy compressor can only manage a few second bursts on my air wrench before it has to recharge the tank.
I have plenty of dewalt batteries so a dewalt wrench would be an obvious choice. or do i upgrade my compressor (i have a trusty lidl compressor that has been good for the last 8 years or so)
dont want to get a wrench that isnt as powerful as my air wrench as it does undo crank bolts etc





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obfripper

posted on 9/10/19 at 12:17 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by skydivepaul
I'm also looking for a battery impact wrench as my weedy compressor can only manage a few second bursts on my air wrench before it has to recharge the tank.
I have plenty of dewalt batteries so a dewalt wrench would be an obvious choice. or do i upgrade my compressor (i have a trusty lidl compressor that has been good for the last 8 years or so)
dont want to get a wrench that isnt as powerful as my air wrench as it does undo crank bolts etc


I use a DCF889HN at work, and it is the hands down best vs any 1/2 air wrench i've used and is more powerful than my 3/4 bluepoint air wrench.
It's also a load more powerful than the snap on battery wrench (which tbh is not much better than the lidl one), the milwaukee and ingersoll are about equal matches but in a different price league.
It does require 5Ah+ batteries to give full output, it will power up on the smaller batteries but is significantly weaker.
There are also pin retention versions, but they're more for site work, you need to push in the pin to swap sockets which gets tedious pretty quick.

I have used the lidl wrench, and it seems very good for the money, but anything over m16 is likely to trouble it, wheras the dewalt will shift m24 hub nuts without much effort.

Dave

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skydivepaul

posted on 9/10/19 at 03:06 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by obfripper
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Originally posted by skydivepaul
I'm also looking for a battery impact wrench as my weedy compressor can only manage a few second bursts on my air wrench before it has to recharge the tank.
I have plenty of dewalt batteries so a dewalt wrench would be an obvious choice. or do i upgrade my compressor (i have a trusty lidl compressor that has been good for the last 8 years or so)
dont want to get a wrench that isnt as powerful as my air wrench as it does undo crank bolts etc


I use a DCF889HN at work, and it is the hands down best vs any 1/2 air wrench i've used and is more powerful than my 3/4 bluepoint air wrench.
It's also a load more powerful than the snap on battery wrench (which tbh is not much better than the lidl one), the milwaukee and ingersoll are about equal matches but in a different price league.
It does require 5Ah+ batteries to give full output, it will power up on the smaller batteries but is significantly weaker.
There are also pin retention versions, but they're more for site work, you need to push in the pin to swap sockets which gets tedious pretty quick.

I have used the lidl wrench, and it seems very good for the money, but anything over m16 is likely to trouble it, wheras the dewalt will shift m24 hub nuts without much effort.

Dave


Cheers Dave, I'll have a look to see where the best place is to get one





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ReMan

posted on 9/10/19 at 08:04 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by skydivepaul
quote:
Originally posted by obfripper
quote:
Originally posted by skydivepaul
I'm also looking for a battery impact wrench as my weedy compressor can only manage a few second bursts on my air wrench before it has to recharge the tank.
I have plenty of dewalt batteries so a dewalt wrench would be an obvious choice. or do i upgrade my compressor (i have a trusty lidl compressor that has been good for the last 8 years or so)
dont want to get a wrench that isnt as powerful as my air wrench as it does undo crank bolts etc


I use a DCF889HN at work, and it is the hands down best vs any 1/2 air wrench i've used and is more powerful than my 3/4 bluepoint air wrench.
It's also a load more powerful than the snap on battery wrench (which tbh is not much better than the lidl one), the milwaukee and ingersoll are about equal matches but in a different price league.
It does require 5Ah+ batteries to give full output, it will power up on the smaller batteries but is significantly weaker.
There are also pin retention versions, but they're more for site work, you need to push in the pin to swap sockets which gets tedious pretty quick.

I have used the lidl wrench, and it seems very good for the money, but anything over m16 is likely to trouble it, wheras the dewalt will shift m24 hub nuts without much effort.

Dave


Cheers Dave, I'll have a look to see where the best place is to get one


See my earlier post. Screwfix are a good price and the DeWalt is VERY powerful on paper, but it is anbiggish beasty.
I hope to pick one up next week





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skydivepaul

posted on 9/10/19 at 10:57 PM Reply With Quote
Just ordered one form screwfix 159.99
Coming on Friday so will be trying to unbolt everything in my garage !!





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Paul_Arion

posted on 10/10/19 at 06:07 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by ReMan

Thanks for the offer Mr 40
Have you used it on any challenging parts yet? Wheels, brake calliper mounts , suspension or anything?

Id convinced myself that I needed one of these:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcf899n-xj-18v-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-impact-wrench-bare

And one of these:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcd778m2t-sfgb-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-combi-drill/979hf

As my current driver is very tired too
Very good reviews on one of the mechanics forums, my only concern really is its over 2.6 kg and on the bigger side which could make it unwieldy!

Which then brings us back to Lidl, super cheap if it does 90% and if it doesnt it,s 60, or the Ryobi, which looks a good contender, or the DeWalt, or something else!!


I have both DeWalt items as above myself. Both great bits of kit and highly recommended. I have used the impact driver to undo plenty of rusty bolts on a 20+ year old MX5 - including driveshaft hub nuts.

[Edited on 10/10/19 by Paul_Arion]

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motorcycle_mayhem

posted on 10/10/19 at 08:35 AM Reply With Quote
I bought the Lidl one too, finally. I went in to pick up the die-grinder (some weld intrusions into various threaded bushes - now removed).

It's a good bit of kit. I don't have a Porsche, so it's not an issue that it's only dealing with 40 lb 7/16" wheel nuts on the race car (removed with ease). It's also going to be thrown around in the paddock, along with my other fine (Titan and Workzone) tools. No-one (as yet) has wanted to steal all of them.

It's basically (as we know) what your your personal circumstances are. I have a sodding great compressor in the garage, which drives tools capable of dealing with the Landrover (52 years young, not a Velar) and the wife's crusty car.

Horses for courses, your mileage may vary, objects in the rear view mirror may appear larger than they are, may contain nuts.




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Originally posted by ReMan
UPDATE!
Picked the Lidl one up at 8.00 this morning.
The good news is its a great kit for the money.
The bad news is its a useless
It wouldn't undo my Porsche wheel nuts, so its going back in the morning!

ATEOTHD If I have to break everything by hand first, then I can do that now with my battery drill and a " adaptor, so I'm gaining nothing.
Sorry for the bad review!!

[Edited on 26/9/19 by ReMan]

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coyoteboy

posted on 10/10/19 at 09:38 AM Reply With Quote
Almost all wheel nuts are 100Nm+. Even the 18v makita Pro ones are only manufacturer rated to 175Nm breaking torque in ideal conditions. They just don't ever seem to do the jobs I want them for. IE shifting stuck fasteners.





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skydivepaul

posted on 11/10/19 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
Screwfix delivered my presents today. First impressions, the dewalt is a big beastie as said before. ''Tis also a heavy beastie, you may need a few weeks in the gym before trying to use it.
I'll be undoing most any bolts and nuts that I find tomorrow so will report back

Well a quick try out on my truck wheel nuts and the dewalt took them off with ease. Checked with a torque wrench and they were at 120lbs.

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Shooter63

posted on 13/10/19 at 03:03 PM Reply With Quote
Milwaukee tools

A little storey about the above, my company bought 40K yup 40k worth of the above company rattle guns, within 2 weeks the guys were bringing them back non working, at first they honoured the warranty but after a while refused to saying we were using then wrong, eh? Obviously a sh#t storm ensued , i wont bore you with the details but we are now using Makita, so far no problems

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steve m

posted on 14/10/19 at 07:36 AM Reply With Quote
I had thought for years to buy a battery impact gun, but after using one on a friends race car, it only had the power to undo
all 16 nuts, and do them up ONCE, and the nuts had to be done up with a bar afterwards

I have no idea what make it was, so never bought one

Now, I crack the seal with a socket and bar, use my cordless Stanley max drill with a home made adapter with a 17mm and 19mm socket to undo and do up the nuts, and use the bar to torque up when finished

The benefit of doing it this way, is a cordless drill has many many purposes than a one use buzz gun

steve





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cliftyhanger

posted on 14/10/19 at 10:19 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by steve m
I had thought for years to buy a battery impact gun, but after using one on a friends race car, it only had the power to undo
all 16 nuts, and do them up ONCE, and the nuts had to be done up with a bar afterwards

I have no idea what make it was, so never bought one

Now, I crack the seal with a socket and bar, use my cordless Stanley max drill with a home made adapter with a 17mm and 19mm socket to undo and do up the nuts, and use the bar to torque up when finished

The benefit of doing it this way, is a cordless drill has many many purposes than a one use buzz gun

steve


Sort of the same here. But you can buy, as I did , a set of adaptors for 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2" adaptors. Got mine from screwfix as they had a torque rating, most don't.
Anyway, I use a 1/4" drive impact driver for screws, and apart from initial loosening/final tightening on bigger nuts/bolts, it does everything. And is very compact. Plus total was about 6 for teh adaptors. I really like the 1/4 drive sockets with it, which mine go up to 13mm, as so easy to get in places. But will happily do several sets of wheel nuts (apart from the initial half turn with the breaker bar, and torque up at the end) And it has a satisfying rattle, which is OK in the garage up screwing boards up for hours on ends gets irritating.

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tweek

posted on 15/10/19 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
I also have a Ryobi one and a 5Ah battery, it hasn't let me down... yet!





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tom225

posted on 13/11/19 at 03:55 PM Reply With Quote
I've been using the 20v Sealey unit for a little while after picking up an eBay bargain.

Must say great but of kit. Wheel nuts not a problem and even managed to undo a the hub nuts on an MX5 i was stripping for parts which really surprised me.

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luke2152

posted on 14/11/19 at 10:19 AM Reply With Quote
I've got the ryobi one+ and its useful but a bit underwelming. Still great for doing m6/m8 stuff but runs out of steam trying to crack wheelnuts. Battery life is awesome though.
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miskit

posted on 14/11/19 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
Take a look at the cordless impact Kielder stuff the Binky boys are using on The Escargo Ep. 4, pretty impressive, Machine Mart have them and price seems good too.#
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