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Catalyser Theft NCP1 Birmingham Airport
johnemms - 11/12/19 at 08:15 AM

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Watch This Video Linky to Cat Theft

NCP Car park No1 Birmingham Airport Secure Parking - 'We are not responsible for anything that happens to your car'..

Got off plane after long flight - started car...Sounded like a V8 - looked underneath - cat stolen
Drove home at 11pm at night with no exhaust ..
Insurance wants full excess before any work and it would be a recorded fault claim affecting NCD..

Toyota are not selling cats to garages due to needing them themselves..
Would have to wait to import a cat.. car off road maybe 6 weeks..

Have bought aftermarket from eBay 375 + Lambda 70 - will diy Friday..

Cancelled Insurance claim to keep NC Bonus..

If i wasn't a car builder I would have been well stuffed



Update:
Monday 11.00pm discovered cat stolen..
Tuesday 11.00am ordered eBay equivalent Catalyser..
Wednesday 8am UPS delivered
Fitted up and running 11.30am - cleared engine code - all done..

[Edited on 11/12/19 by johnemms]


Oddified - 11/12/19 at 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by johnemms
Cancelled Insurance claim to keep NC Bonus..

[Edited on 11/12/19 by johnemms]


That's a $hit!!, but it seems to be get more common.

Don't be surprised if at renewal time it still effects the premium now it's logged

Ian


nick205 - 11/12/19 at 11:08 AM

That sucks big big big time!

As you say if you weren't a car builder and DIY minded it would be a tru PITA waiting for it to be sorted.


I've not hear of Catalysers being stolen before, but people will steal most things that have a cost and/or availability issue attached to them. My Dad had a work Ford Transit stolen some years ago. The police found it a few miles away with the front cut off and the engine missing. It appears it was stolen simply for the engine. Insurance at the time paid out and the thieves weren't to know the engine was pretty well on it's last legs anyway.


Hope you get your cat fitted and the car up and running OK.


ken555 - 11/12/19 at 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by nick205

I've not hear of Catalysers being stolen before, but people will steal most things that have a cost and/or availability issue attached to them.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49767195


nick205 - 11/12/19 at 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by ken555
quote:
Originally posted by nick205

I've not hear of Catalysers being stolen before, but people will steal most things that have a cost and/or availability issue attached to them.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49767195



Interesting to read and learn - not being much of a news reader/watcher I'd not come across it before.


Nickp - 11/12/19 at 01:17 PM

It's a big issue, especially on 4x4 as it's much easier to get at the cat


Slimy38 - 11/12/19 at 01:59 PM

It's enough of an issue for people to be able to market a solution for it;

https://www.vanlocker.co.uk/armacat

I've always been frustrated by my Saab 9-3 and their decision to put the cat directly under the turbo right in the engine bay. But when I see things like this I do wonder whether they had the right idea.


ian locostzx9rc2 - 11/12/19 at 03:18 PM

Toyota and Honda cats are favourites at present as they appear to worth the most lots being stolen locally where I live


iant88 - 11/12/19 at 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Slimy38
It's enough of an issue for people to be able to market a solution for it;

https://www.vanlocker.co.uk/armacat

I've always been frustrated by my Saab 9-3 and their decision to put the cat directly under the turbo right in the engine bay. But when I see things like this I do wonder whether they had the right idea.


If the miscreants are armed with a cordless angle grinder I can't see a steel cable defeating them !!!


nick205 - 11/12/19 at 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by iant88
quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
It's enough of an issue for people to be able to market a solution for it;

https://www.vanlocker.co.uk/armacat

I've always been frustrated by my Saab 9-3 and their decision to put the cat directly under the turbo right in the engine bay. But when I see things like this I do wonder whether they had the right idea.


If the miscreants are armed with a cordless angle grinder I can't see a steel cable defeating them !!!



Agreed, an angle grinder would go through the cable as would a set of bolt cutters. I'd imagine the thieves are pretty well tooled and determined to get the cats.


cliftyhanger - 11/12/19 at 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by Nickp
It's a big issue, especially on 4x4 as it's much easier to get at the cat


Wife came out f work about 6 weeks ago. Got in her MX5. Loud exhaust. Yep. Cat stolen.....

Wife was furious. Seriously, not seen her so cross. Ever.

Genuine Cat 800+. Repro 35 upwards, tend to last a few hundred miles as virtually no platinum (hence low cost) but got a genuine used one locally for 30. However, made a temp decat pipe as thieves often return to have your new cat....

Come MOT time I will fit the "new" one, then go back to a decat. Should be a very quick swap over.


perksy - 11/12/19 at 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by johnemms
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Watch This Video Linky to Cat Theft

NCP Car park No1 Birmingham Airport Secure Parking - 'We are not responsible for anything that happens to your car'..

Got off plane after long flight - started car...Sounded like a V8 - looked underneath - cat stolen
Drove home at 11pm at night with no exhaust ..
Insurance wants full excess before any work and it would be a recorded fault claim affecting NCD..

Toyota are not selling cats to garages due to needing them themselves..
Would have to wait to import a cat.. car off road maybe 6 weeks..

Have bought aftermarket from eBay 375 + Lambda 70 - will diy Friday..

Cancelled Insurance claim to keep NC Bonus..

If i wasn't a car builder I would have been well stuffed



Update:
Monday 11.00pm discovered cat stolen..
Tuesday 11.00am ordered eBay equivalent Catalyser..
Wednesday 8am UPS delivered
Fitted up and running 11.30am - cleared engine code - all done..

[Edited on 11/12/19 by johnemms]




These people are toe rags and vermin
Just curious though, As it was an NCP car park wasn't there any CCTV there ?


steve m - 11/12/19 at 08:11 PM

"Just curious though, As it was an NCP car park wasn't there any CCTV there ?"

because someone there is in on the scam, also being an airport, and very noisy, its an obvious place to do this type
of criminal damage, I bet they have quite a few go missing there

did you contact the Police?

steve


sdh2903 - 11/12/19 at 08:16 PM

The amount airport car parks charge they should have bloody armed guards.


johnemms - 11/12/19 at 08:18 PM

Yes.. Police notified - online - got a crime number and promised to give weekly updates..

Cat seems fine.. fitted fine.. from: BM Catalysts

Cat Linky

Will fit new 02 sensor - its in the post..
(I happened to have an old 02 lying around - Just swapped plug over)

Most people this time of year are faced with car off road for 6+ weeks Plus Xmas closedown.. I was off for 1 day - Locostbuilders Rule !!



[Edited on 11/12/19 by johnemms]


ken555 - 11/12/19 at 11:12 PM

No grinder needed, there is a chain type tool for cutting exhaust pipes




Clamp it on, rotate a few degrees each direction, tighten and repeat.

[Edited on 11-12-19 by ken555]


britishtrident - 11/12/19 at 11:24 PM

Cat theft is back in fashion again replacing crash for cash as flavour of the month for scum bags. Regarding aftermarket cats the type approved ones while they don't contain the weight of catalyst of OEM tend to last a few years provided there is no engine fault upstream of the cat that caused the fail and trigger a P0420.

To test if a replacement cat is any good you can do a Catalyst Reserve Oxygen Test with an OBD2 Dongle that graphs live data.


Doctor Derek Doctors - 12/12/19 at 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by Slimy38
It's enough of an issue for people to be able to market a solution for it;

https://www.vanlocker.co.uk/armacat




That's hilarious! 304 Stainless and some cables! Wow! My 3 year old could cut through that with his Fisher Price tools.

All that thing does is provide an easy way for the thrives to carry their I'll gotten gains.

People really will buy any old rubbish.


cliftyhanger - 12/12/19 at 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by ken555
No grinder needed, there is a chain type tool for cutting exhaust pipes




Clamp it on, rotate a few degrees each direction, tighten and repeat.

[Edited on 11-12-19 by ken555]


hat is what I think they used on our car.
I have a friend who works with CCTV stuff. Helped with a case of cat-theft. Bloke pops out the passenger door of a Zafira (reg comes back as a Mini) and under 2 mins later gets back in with teh cat off a hybrid. About 2k bill for that one....

I think the older MX5 cats fetch 100 or so scrap. Some older Hondas 400ish. But EVERY scrote will know the value and location of each car...

I believe some vehicles now have a plate covering the cat to help prevent theft.


britishtrident - 12/12/19 at 09:17 PM

A lot of newer vehicles now have the primary cat close coupled to the exhaust ports --- the cat isn't just part of exhaust manifold it is the exhaust manifold. It must cost a chunk of power but the cat gets working really fast after start up.


tims31 - 13/12/19 at 12:43 PM

There was a news article on this at Nottingham park and ride.

Seems it is on the increase

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham- news/cctv-footage-released-after-catalytic-3547818


SteveWalker - 13/12/19 at 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by johnemms
NCP Car park No1 Birmingham Airport Secure Parking - 'We are not responsible for anything that happens to your car'..



Aren't they in breach of trade descriptions laws?

If they do actually use the term "Secure Parking", then surely the small claims court is likely to ignore their statement of them not being "responsible." Either they keep it secure or they are selling a service that they are not providing and you have suffered because of it.


ken555 - 30/1/20 at 07:41 PM

Oh dear what a shame


rusty nuts - 31/1/20 at 08:59 AM

One of our local garages have had 2 Honda Jazz cars in that have had the cats cut off whilst parked in different park and ride sites, both in the last week or so.


johnemms - 31/1/20 at 10:27 AM

A big problem can be waiting for a new Cat to be imported..
Add to that Insurance having a bite on your renewal..
Police are absolutely useless...

Oh and now..Garages are cashing in offering quick fix turnarounds for cash