mccsp
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| posted on 29/7/14 at 09:22 PM |
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Mazda 3 MPS 2.3T - Is it a Duratec?
Hi,
I was wondering, is the 2.3T in the Mazda 3 MPS a turbocharged version of the 2.3 Duratec?
Does anyone know what the differences are?
If it is a Duratec, why are people not using this engine as a donor? Is the 2.3 Duratec the same externally as the 2.0? I was under the impression it
was and that the stroke is longer, is this correct?
Anyone know if the Mazda 3 MPS 2.3T is any good?
Why do it the easy way, when I can do things my way!
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Mr C
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| posted on 29/7/14 at 09:35 PM |
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I understand its essentially a duratec good for around 265bhp and fairly tunable with minor mods to 300-330bhp without too much aggro. Mazda parts are
expensive compared to ford though I'm sure parts are interchangable. £36 for a spigot bearing (£6 ford part) I'd already gone too far down
the supercharged 2.0 duratec route to change. I am using the mps 6 speed transverse gearbox as I'm building a mid engined car and the transverse
box from the fiesta ST is made from butter.
Not massively knowledgable on these engines, though in hindsight it would have been an easier/better/cheaper option for me. Well worth some serious
thought.
Girl walks into a bar and asks for a double entendre, so the barman gave her one
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beaver34
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| posted on 30/7/14 at 07:00 AM |
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yes its duratec,
however it is long stroke compared to the 2.0 so higher which isnt ideal for kit applications, and its rare
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mccsp
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| posted on 30/7/14 at 07:22 AM |
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It's not just a longer through crank then?
Figured they were harder to find but if the Mazda 2.3t is truly a tiro version, sounds like a good option, if it fits? Must be a catch though or more
people would put them in retro fords.
Why do it the easy way, when I can do things my way!
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beaver34
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| posted on 30/7/14 at 08:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mccsp
It's not just a longer through crank then?
Figured they were harder to find but if the Mazda 2.3t is truly a tiro version, sounds like a good option, if it fits? Must be a catch though or more
people would put them in retro fords.
i presume its the same as the n/a 2.3 duratec in the smax and transit so if it is the block is higher vs the 2.0 not a massive amount but has caused
issues when fitting in fiesta fwd
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pjay
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| posted on 30/7/14 at 01:49 PM |
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It may also have a balance shaft for the crank which takes power. Worth a read on the Burton website I think they mention the 2.3 there.
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threadbare wallet
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| posted on 30/7/14 at 05:48 PM |
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Use it of you can its a great engine in the mazda! Really torquey would love to use it in a seven would be incredible,you can get the mps cheaper now
especially smacked up ones so look about the engines will be around.
Very few things are "really" needed.
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matt5964
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| posted on 30/7/14 at 08:03 PM |
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On the bay
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I had a 6MPS AWD and the mid range was awesome nice usable engine
[Edited on 30/7/14 by matt5964]
[Edited on 30/7/14 by matt5964]
Luego velocity XT 2.0ltr 221.3bhp 178.9lbft
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mccsp
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| posted on 1/8/14 at 08:46 PM |
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I am not looking to change. we were just discussing the mazda 3 mps, which got me wondering given that the duratec engine was originally mazda
designed
Why do it the easy way, when I can do things my way!
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Furyous
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| posted on 1/8/14 at 09:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mccsp
If it is a Duratec, why are people not using this engine as a donor?
I haven't checked recently but when I got my Duratec there were dozens on ebay for £150-300. There were only a couple of MZR engines and they
were well over £1,000, and they weren't even the turbo version.
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threadbare wallet
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| posted on 2/8/14 at 06:45 AM |
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I just think its one of the cars that didnt sell to the "masses" so isnt widely know about and didnt sell in a lot of numbers so there
arent the engines about to get? When i start my build in a few years i will be using either one of theses or a type r engine in a ,in a mid engined
car.
Very few things are "really" needed.
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