Rallye_Mark
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 06:28 PM |
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Engine Choice: Carb'ed R1 or Honda S2000
I had planned to go for an R1 engine, however my friend has offered me a whole Honda S2000 for £2000. What would you choose and why? Im hurting my
head trying to think what to do...
Cheers Mark
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CraigJ
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 06:29 PM |
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s2000 s2000 s2000 s2000 s2000 s2000
yep s2000.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 06:37 PM |
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Make sure you have space for the S2000 gearbox.
I'm advised it's a sizeable item.
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worX
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 06:37 PM |
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R1 - No question...
Steve
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clairetoo
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 06:40 PM |
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Gotta be S2000 - loads of power and reverse 
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 06:41 PM |
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S2000 is a tall engine!
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skodaman
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 06:44 PM |
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S2000 cos revs like hell for a car and as said has reverse.
Skodaman
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skodaman
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 06:44 PM |
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S2000 cos revs like hell for a car and as said has reverse.
Skodaman
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Rallye_Mark
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 06:45 PM |
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The way I'm looking at it is.
R1
- Lighter Engine
- Sequential Gearbox
- High Revving
- Cheaper
but
- No Reverse
- Lacking in Torque
- Road driving is harder
S2000
- Higher Torque and Power
- More refined Engine
- Greater Reliability
but
- Heavy Engine and Gearbox
- Higher Bodywork
- More expensive parts
Ahhhhhh...
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novacaine
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 06:52 PM |
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surely an S2000 engine has to be a happy medium between car and bike engine with its revvy nature
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again, the sun is the same in a relative way but
your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death
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joetait
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 07:00 PM |
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Done both
I've built both a Carb'd R1 Dax and an S2000 one and would definitely recommend the S2000 or even better go for a Duratec as there is much
better support available..
R1 is manic but irritating - especially in carb format as the fuelling is always a compromise on carbs and the sequential gearbox is annoying on
anything other than a track. For example 1st gear goes up to ~60 which is great for sliding around a roundabout but if you are in 6th on approach then
you have to run down 5 gears which is rarely achieved in one go without having to come out at say 3rd then clutch back in and go down 2 more gears.
(same as on a bike - the gears arent designed to do it)
BEC's suffer lots of gearbox & clutch issues when put in a car as the weight more than doubles from the bike. For the S2000 its used to
lugging about twice the weight so its unstressed and pulls in any gear at any speed.
In terms of handling though, the BEC wins anyday!
Jon
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Miks15
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 07:03 PM |
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S2000 no question!
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eddie99
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 07:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by joetait
I've built both a Carb'd R1 Dax and an S2000 one and would definitely recommend the S2000 or even better go for a Duratec as there is much
better support available..
If you went down the Duratec route as Jon said, while browsing i just saw
this...http://www.ekmpowershop9.com/ekmps/shops/gtstuning/duratec-15-c.asp
Theres a brand new 2.0 engine there
Hope thats any help
Eddie
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adam1985
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 07:21 PM |
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surely at the cost of the s2000 engine you could afford a better bike engine maybe hayabusa or zx14 and electric reverse and still would be cheaper
and out do the s2000 just a idea
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Mark G
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 07:27 PM |
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could you use the s2000 as a donor for brakes, and drivetrain?
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Rallye_Mark
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 07:34 PM |
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Yeah, I believe I can take what ever I want off of the car for that price, therefore all wiring, diff etc...
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locoR1
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 07:58 PM |
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Easy choice R1  Whatever you do don't fit a car engine!
Really depends what you want or intend to use the car for! Only you can decide.
But if you must fit a boat Anchor S2000 will be about as close to a bec as you could get with cec
 
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coozer
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| posted on 27/8/08 at 10:26 PM |
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Forget the last comment, an S2000 engine in a 7 will whack a bec all day.
There is an MNR currently being built with one so no real issues with fitment.
OT, but I saw a MK1 Escort at BB last week, Honda Vtec 240bhp @ 9500rpm
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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imp paul
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| posted on 28/8/08 at 06:31 AM |
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i have a Honda k20a engine and its all alloy and its not a Heavy Engine so that's a mith but every 1 to there own and you can take it up to 2.5L
for even more fun lol good luck
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Hellfire
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| posted on 28/8/08 at 12:11 PM |
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Like locoR1 has already said, it really depends what you intend to use the car for. The S2000 is a great engine and performs well in a seven,
particularly in a straight line and will outperform most N/A BEC's in a quarter mile sprint.
Where the BEC gains an advantage though is on the track and through the twisty bits.
Tough choice but you'll not be disappointed whichever engine you decide.
PS - As it's made by Honda, it can't really be classed as a car engine. It's just a heavy duty bike engine
Phil
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