novacaine
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 04:54 PM |
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Hamilton looses it ...
25 second penalty
drops him to 3rd
Link
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your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 04:57 PM |
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as discussed elsewhere
Linky to thread
 
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russbost
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 04:58 PM |
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What utter, utter one sided unfair treatment - perhaps McLaren should paint their cars red! That is total & absolute
b*llocks
Absolutely pathetic!
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Minicooper
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 04:59 PM |
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I was under the impression that as long as he didn't benefit from the corner cuting ie giving back the place on the straight which he clearly
did then all was equal
Cheers
David
[Edited on 7/9/08 by Minicooper]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:00 PM |
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The Autosport Atlas F1 forum is jump up and down mad.
Mosley must go before he destroys F1
When are Ferrari going to learn are doing themselves a lot of PR damage.
[Edited on 7/9/08 by britishtrident]
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LBMEFM
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:01 PM |
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Oh dear, never mind, sh^t happens
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Mark G
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:06 PM |
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What a crock. I can't believe that they took his win off him. As far as I'm concerned yes he gained an advantage from cutting the
chicane but then he immediately let Kimi past again therefore forfitting his advantage.
I hate to say it but I am beginning to believe that the FIA are biased towards Ferrari.
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Mix
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:07 PM |
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How the f**k can we stop this ridiculous state of affairs continuing?
I've enjoyed F1 motorsport for a long time and I don't want to see it f**ked up for the sake of some short arse and his zenophobic mates
ego / bank balance.
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RK
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:08 PM |
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It ain't over til the fat lady sings. Plenty of time in the season to go.
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clairetoo
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:08 PM |
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That was the best finish to a formula 1 GP I have seen for a long time - totally the wrong decision
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:14 PM |
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uTo1rjn054c
Is this what they are on about...
I just dont understand how they can say he did anything wrong..Apart fom race!!!
( first part of vid)
Paul
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nstrug
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:16 PM |
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Ferrari International Assistance to the rescue!
I thought that corner cutting only resulted in a penalty if you gained a place?
Nick
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stevec
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:24 PM |
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That really sucks, It really does show how Ferrari rule the roost.
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eddie99
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:25 PM |
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This is stupid, i hope Ron Dennis appeals against this, I agree with most of you, if ferrari had done this, it would have been fine.
How can be possibly get an advantage by letting him go through and then getting in his slipstream to overtake again, thats racing, not cheating! Ontop
of that, the Ferrari overtook again as hamilton went wide, You cant blame Hamilton for the crash at all!
FIA sucks!
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RK
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:25 PM |
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It looks to me, from an unbiased foreigner's perspective, that LH cut him off by taking a shortcut. Where is the bias?
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ecosse
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:26 PM |
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I'm no big fan of Hamilton, but I have to agree, that punishment is way out of order
Also interesting that Kovy got a drive through for bumping Webbo, yet Kimi got nothing for bumping Hamilton and forcing him across the chicane (the
alternative was an accident and who would have been blamed if that had happened I wonder)
Cheers
Alex
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JUD
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ecosse
Also interesting that Kovy got a drive through for bumping Webbo, yet Kimi got nothing for bumping Hamilton and forcing him across the chicane (the
alternative was an accident and who would have been blamed if that had happened I wonder)
Or when Kimi totalled the Force India at Monaco just after the tunnel, when they were on for their first points finish... hmmm
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scootz
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:39 PM |
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I must be in the minority (and posted this on the earlier thread before the investigation was launched).
I'm a Macca fan, but even to me it was obvious that Hamilton did not yield properly!
First things first - Kimi defended the corner correctly. Hamilton was never going to make that one on the outside without running wide.
When he returned to the track, he was fractionally behind Kimi and momentarily stayed fractionally behind Kimi (that's not yielding). But
having cut the corner, Hamilton was able to get the power down quicker. This is backed up by the stewards investigation into Hamiltons telemetry - it
showed (allegedly) that he never backed off at any point... he just kept accelerating!
Yes, I agree that the rules such as these make for a less exciting speactacle, but the rules are the rules and Hamilton stepped outside them.
He should have actively yielded to Raikkonen when he returned to the track and not used his deviation to his advantage. It was clear to me visually
(and I obviously have no access to telemetry!) that Hamilton gained an enormous advantage.
If that's not enough (which is plenty for me), I understand that in these circumstances a driver is not allowed to overtake until AFTER the NEXT
corner anyway.
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 05:53 PM |
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quote:
When he returned to the track, he was fractionally behind Kimi and momentarily stayed fractionally behind Kimi (that's not yielding). But having
cut the corner, Hamilton was able to get the power down quicker. This is backed up by the stewards investigation into Hamiltons telemetry - it showed
(allegedly) that he never backed off at any point... he just kept accelerating!
Video seems to show hamilton ahead of Kimi when he returns to the track and hamilton clearly lets Kimi pass before attacking again..
Paul
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 06:02 PM |
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Quite Right??
Yes we must cut out any overtaking ,or dare I say RACING.
I even thought Kovalainen was over punished for trying hard to overtake.
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coozer
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 06:14 PM |
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I thought he was fair.. he got out of the way instead of crashing then realising he'd cut the corner hung back and let the mad man past. Totally
fair racing in my eyes...
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 06:16 PM |
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Just watched the video again and still it looks total fair and in the true spirit of racing. He lets Kimi get back in the lead and then Races
again..
Paul
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 06:20 PM |
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remember last year when hammy was in the lead he suddenly had a gearbox problem and then he wasnt allowed to pit when a tyre started to
laminate.....all to give the red cars another championship?i should think so
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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locoR1
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 06:32 PM |
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This really is a load of B*llocks what's the point in watching a race to have the results changed yet again for no apparent
reason apart from helping out Ferrari
I hardly ever watch an F1 race anymore due to bul*shit like this happening. I really enjoyed what I thought was a fair race till reading this
post!
Something needs to be done to stop this madness. I for one wont be wasting anymore of my time watching F1 its Moto GP only from now on!
 
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 7/9/08 at 06:45 PM |
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never saw it , but , its teh RACE STEWARDS who have handed the drive by penalty to him , ferrari did not instigate it .
it also cannot be appealed against !
i wanted raikkonen to win just to keep teh championship a bit more alive , but you cant help think theres somebody engineering stuff altho if lewis
gained extra momentum/traction from straightlining the corner is that not an advantage ?
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