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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 22/11/12 at 07:30 PM Reply With Quote
Engine Transplant for the Truck

I currently run an 02 L200 animal which is a great truck if a little athsmatic at times. I have done all the obvious/easy things to release power and to be fair it drives ok now but mpg is terrible.

I was thinking about how easy it would be throw in a more refined/modern diesel lump from an Audi ,Volvo etc. Hoping for better drive more power and better mpg.
I know it could be tricky wrt to Ecu and electrics. But having a whole donor car it would be possible wouldn't it??

not really worried about mating to the box.

Anyone done anything like this with a modern diesel? I'd love to get the Volvo D5 in there.

[Edited on 22/11/12 by liam.mccaffrey]





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wylliezx9r

posted on 22/11/12 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
I've seen one with a supra engine. I think what you are thinking of would be a serious head ache and uneconomical. Anything is possible though I suppose.





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MikeR

posted on 22/11/12 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
one word. insurance!
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steve m

posted on 22/11/12 at 08:01 PM Reply With Quote
WHY
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snakebelly

posted on 22/11/12 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote
Why not?

Sounds like a cool project and at 10 years old its the perfect time, good enough condition to bother but old enough that if it all goes wrong you haven't lost your shirt.

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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 22/11/12 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
I can always count on Steve to be the most pesimistic person in the room, glass half empty again Steve

What would be the insurance impact be? Obviously it'd go up but it cant be that bad can it.

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steve m

posted on 22/11/12 at 08:23 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Liam


just voicing my opinion, but presume , no ones is as important as your own

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r1_pete

posted on 22/11/12 at 08:40 PM Reply With Quote
with the costs involved you'd probably be as well chopping it in against a post 2006 model.

I get 38mpg regular from my 2010 Bull, abd thats with the 168 bhp chip.

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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 22/11/12 at 08:49 PM Reply With Quote
I know the most sensible thing to do would be a post 06 model but I really prefer the classic and the truck is a half project vehicle. Going to be doing some offroad.





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r1_pete

posted on 22/11/12 at 08:52 PM Reply With Quote
How about the engine and trans from an 06 on model? maybe not the boost you're after though...
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sdh2903

posted on 22/11/12 at 09:21 PM Reply With Quote
before I even read the last line of your original post I was thinking Volvo D5. Cracking engine and I hate diesels.

They're quite pricey though so you would be loads better with a full donor to recoup some cash.

If you've got the time and patience go for it.






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owelly

posted on 22/11/12 at 09:24 PM Reply With Quote
I had a 2005 Cherokee and it had an excellent engine! It pulled like a train. The Jeep was 18 months old when I bought it and the engine was the only thing it had going for it! There's a few in the scrapyards now so a donor shouldn't be too hard to find. Good luck.





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Ninehigh

posted on 23/11/12 at 05:45 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
one word. insurance!


Yeah I can see that now
You I've put a Volvo D5 engine in it
Insurance Bod Ok (tap tap) can I put you on hold? (Goes to supervisor) Got a guy here done a modification not on the list...
Supervisor Has he already done it?
IB I think so
S Hmm, charge him another 3 grand then






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mad4x4

posted on 23/11/12 at 02:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
one word. insurance!


Yeah I can see that now
You I've put a Volvo D5 engine in it
Insurance Bod Ok (tap tap) can I put you on hold? (Goes to supervisor) Got a guy here done a modification not on the list...
Supervisor Has he already done it?
IB I think so
S Hmm, charge him another 3 grand then



Oh the Optimisuim that washes over this forum... when we go "non standard".....





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MikeRJ

posted on 23/11/12 at 03:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
Oh the Optimisuim that washes over this forum... when we go "non standard".....


This is less about the actual modifying, and more to do with peoples (poor) experiences of insurance companies.

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sdh2903

posted on 23/11/12 at 03:03 PM Reply With Quote
Would there really be an issue with insurance? it's only changing the cc from 2500 to 2400 at the end of the day. As long as you do the engine numbers with dvla then it would all be legit. I can't really see them being that bothered. Would obviously depend on which insurer your with.






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NS Dev

posted on 27/11/12 at 08:15 PM Reply With Quote
do what I do, say f*** the fuel consumption, stick a merc straight 6 diesel on mech pump in there and wind the boost and fuel up.

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Not Anumber

posted on 27/11/12 at 09:54 PM Reply With Quote
Early Volvo 5 pot diesel (made by Audi) as fitted to early V70 turbodiesel is a cracker of an engine with fairly simple electronics that would be straightforward to transplant . Later (volvo's own) common rail version is a bit more powerful, simpler mechanically but more electronics to work round.
Merc 320 cdi straight 6 is a fantastic engine if youve got the space for it. Ive worked a fair bit on one of these recently. Hefty thing on an engine hoist but pulls like a train with nearly 200bhp without any mods and fantastic ecconomy on any sort of a run and ive had 50 mpg out of one in a fully laden estate car on a long run at a steady 65mph. Not sure how simple the electronics would be to transfer though.

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Ninehigh

posted on 27/11/12 at 10:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
one word. insurance!


Yeah I can see that now
You I've put a Volvo D5 engine in it
Insurance Bod Ok (tap tap) can I put you on hold? (Goes to supervisor) Got a guy here done a modification not on the list...
Supervisor Has he already done it?
IB I think so
S Hmm, charge him another 3 grand then



Oh the Optimisuim that washes over this forum... when we go "non standard".....


Actually that's how I believe insurance companies work, they just press a button on the random number generator and add a 0 to the end






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morcus

posted on 27/11/12 at 11:03 PM Reply With Quote
Does seem that way especially since it usually only works one way like badging your 316 as an M3 puts up your insurace if you tell them, yet debadging your M3/328 also puts up you insurance.

I reckon though with this it wouldn't have that big an effect assuming the OP is over 25 but might mean having to find a speciallist insurer.

If your gonna say sod fuel consumption, why not go for a V8? On a more sensible note, though I don't really know what I'm talking about, how about a PSA V6 like the one in an S-type? Of the top of my head I believe it makes about 200bhp in the jag and can be found in lots of Pugs and citroens, though still fairly new.





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