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Deckman001

posted on 4/5/20 at 07:59 AM Reply With Quote
Side Repeaters

Hi all,

I was just wondering what people have used for these, on my car built over ten years ago i fitted them suitable for the regulations at the time, now for IVA i have to fit different ones in addition to the ones i have already fitted, but thankfully you can have more than one each side, so, where did people put theirs? am trying to keep it locost, so Caterham front wing mounted ones are too expensive in my mind

Jason

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adithorp

posted on 4/5/20 at 08:43 AM Reply With Quote
I assume you've fitted them to the scuttle? That fails the angle of visibility check from the rear as the rear arch hides them.

Either fitting to the front edge of the rest arched (check they don't exceed the max distance from the front) or on the outer edge of the front arches is the common solution. Little button ones are common and shouldn't be too expensive.

Don't think (not got manual to hand) you can have more than one each side do you'd have to remove the current ones. Just removing the bulbs isn't enough AFAIK





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ianhurley20

posted on 4/5/20 at 08:53 AM Reply With Quote
I used cheap 1cm ish button ones from ebay and fitted them to the outside of front wings to get all the visible angles right. Only 1 set allowed or required. Interestingly I used old VW Bettle indicators on the top of the front wings and they will get all the angles covered both front and rear, if it didn't say I had to have repeaters I would not have needed them





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CosKev3

posted on 4/5/20 at 08:54 AM Reply With Quote
As above you are only allowed one set of side repeaters, you will need to stick a badge or summat over the holes whilst IVA'ing if you want to fit them back to scuttle after test
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Deckman001

posted on 4/5/20 at 09:26 AM Reply With Quote
Damit, Ok guys, many thanks for the answers, I thought i could use both, but hey ho, another problem to resolve for not getting it sva's many years ago.

Jason

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rusty nuts

posted on 4/5/20 at 09:42 AM Reply With Quote
Wing mirror mounted repeaters would probably be OK but canít say Iíve seen any suitable for a locost
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Deckman001

posted on 4/5/20 at 09:49 AM Reply With Quote
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As you can possibly see them from the above pic, I mounted them along the sides, in between the front and rear arches so a definite no-no now.

So I'll have to try and track down the 10mm ones stated above and get them fitted to the front cycle wings instead.

Are you allowed a side marker light as a running light, always on while the lights are on?

Jason

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40inches

posted on 4/5/20 at 11:10 AM Reply With Quote
You may find it easier to wire if you fit them to the rear arches?
They need to be less than 2600mm from the front,if I remember correctly.
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Deckman001

posted on 4/5/20 at 11:59 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by 40inches
You may find it easier to wire if you fit them to the rear arches?
They need to be less than 2600mm from the front,if I remember correctly.
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Yep you are correct as usual , where did you get yours from ? I can only find ones that need a 20mm hole through the bodywork.

Jason

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907

posted on 4/5/20 at 01:50 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by rusty nuts
Wing mirror mounted repeaters would probably be OK but canít say Iíve seen any suitable for a locost






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Deckman001

posted on 4/5/20 at 02:16 PM Reply With Quote
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Wing mirror mounted repeaters would probably be OK but canít say Iíve seen any suitable for a locost






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That's an interesting option.

I'll have to wait till i get it back before deciding which is the best looking option for my car, although that doesn't mean both options are possible for my car as mirrors are different and I was originally thinking of side mounting on either front or rear arches firstly.

Hmmmm decisions decisions.........

Jason

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40inches

posted on 4/5/20 at 10:07 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Deckman001
quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
You may find it easier to wire if you fit them to the rear arches?
They need to be less than 2600mm from the front,if I remember correctly.
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where did you get yours from ? I can only find ones that need a 20mm hole through the bodywork.

Jason


They are the 20mm ones, I removed them from the rubber sleeve and fitted the light directly into the fibreglass
Around a 12mm hole.

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CosKev3

posted on 5/5/20 at 12:49 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Deckman001
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As you can possibly see them from the above pic, I mounted them along the sides, in between the front and rear arches so a definite no-no now.

So I'll have to try and track down the 10mm ones stated above and get them fitted to the front cycle wings instead.

Are you allowed a side marker light as a running light, always on while the lights are on?

Jason


To give you some more to do you will need some bigger headlights too with a beam pattern.
Some people have passed with dominators, but majority fail IVA

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Deckman001

posted on 5/5/20 at 02:25 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by Deckman001
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As you can possibly see them from the above pic, I mounted them along the sides, in between the front and rear arches so a definite no-no now.

So I'll have to try and track down the 10mm ones stated above and get them fitted to the front cycle wings instead.

Are you allowed a side marker light as a running light, always on while the lights are on?

Jason


To give you some more to do you will need some bigger headlights too with a beam pattern.
Some people have passed with dominators, but majority fail IVA


Ive got my MOT guy checking them while he sets the suspension, when i checked them inside the garage they showed a level beam, so i checked the IVA manual and it says it must have a level beam or a kick up to the left, so hopefully the level beam will suffice.
Although I am open to being told by anyone who used them for IVA and failed ?

Jason

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Deckman001

posted on 5/5/20 at 02:35 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by 40inches
quote:
Originally posted by Deckman001
quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
You may find it easier to wire if you fit them to the rear arches?
They need to be less than 2600mm from the front,if I remember correctly.
Side Repeaters
Side Repeaters
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where did you get yours from ? I can only find ones that need a 20mm hole through the bodywork.

Jason


They are the 20mm ones, I removed them from the rubber sleeve and fitted the light directly into the fibreglass
Around a 12mm hole.


Oh, i see !! that makes them even better for my decision as to where to fit them

Jason

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CosKev3

posted on 5/5/20 at 03:24 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Deckman001
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by Deckman001
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As you can possibly see them from the above pic, I mounted them along the sides, in between the front and rear arches so a definite no-no now.

So I'll have to try and track down the 10mm ones stated above and get them fitted to the front cycle wings instead.

Are you allowed a side marker light as a running light, always on while the lights are on?

Jason


To give you some more to do you will need some bigger headlights too with a beam pattern.
Some people have passed with dominators, but majority fail IVA


Ive got my MOT guy checking them while he sets the suspension, when i checked them inside the garage they showed a level beam, so i checked the IVA manual and it says it must have a level beam or a kick up to the left, so hopefully the level beam will suffice.
Although I am open to being told by anyone who used them for IVA and failed ?

Jason


Pretty sure on the beam checker it wont be a defined enough flat beam, they are more of a 'blob' of light,because they are motorbike headlights.
Also check the stated heights and width measurements in the IVA manual,with them being so small they dont meet the requirements on some chassis without being spaced outwards or upwards

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Deckman001

posted on 5/5/20 at 04:09 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by CosKev3
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Originally posted by Deckman001
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by Deckman001
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As you can possibly see them from the above pic, I mounted them along the sides, in between the front and rear arches so a definite no-no now.

So I'll have to try and track down the 10mm ones stated above and get them fitted to the front cycle wings instead.

Are you allowed a side marker light as a running light, always on while the lights are on?

Jason


To give you some more to do you will need some bigger headlights too with a beam pattern.
Some people have passed with dominators, but majority fail IVA


Ive got my MOT guy checking them while he sets the suspension, when i checked them inside the garage they showed a level beam, so i checked the IVA manual and it says it must have a level beam or a kick up to the left, so hopefully the level beam will suffice.
Although I am open to being told by anyone who used them for IVA and failed ?

Jason


Pretty sure on the beam checker it wont be a defined enough flat beam, they are more of a 'blob' of light,because they are motorbike headlights.
Also check the stated heights and width measurements in the IVA manual,with them being so small they dont meet the requirements on some chassis without being spaced outwards or upwards


Yeah I have set them out with at least 50mm within the max distance from the outside and they clear the front wheels nicely too, I have had to raise them by about 30mm so at to clear the min height too so hopefully the ride height won't be changed during the set up

Jason

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Deckman001

posted on 5/5/20 at 04:12 PM Reply With Quote
But all, please keep coming back with questions or queries regarding my build, I've not put a car through this sort of test before and first built this car over ten years ago so am trying to play catch up with the rules and I expect to miss quite a few things so all help is very much appreciated.




Jason

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