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Mr Whippy - 16/3/23 at 07:47 PM

Hi,

Do you think I would be allowed to take these as hand luggage on a domestic flight or would I just loose them at security?

A pair of plyers and a couple of adjustable's.

Cheers.




[Edited on 16/3/23 by Mr Whippy]


sdh2903 - 16/3/23 at 08:09 PM

Nope. They'll be taken off you. All tools must go in hold luggage


Mr Whippy - 16/3/23 at 09:10 PM

oh, well that's a pest as I only have hand luggage

Glad I asked as I like those tools, thanks


Simon - 16/3/23 at 09:58 PM

Post them, signed for?


tegwin - 16/3/23 at 10:14 PM

Probably cheaper to walk out the airport and go buy a new set from tool station than post them 😱


nick205 - 16/3/23 at 10:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Probably cheaper to walk out the airport and go buy a new set from tool station than post them 😱



That'd be my bet, heavy to post and you'll need sturdy packaging.


roadrunner - 17/3/23 at 07:04 AM

Thought this was a title of a new movie.

As long as the pilot is not the tool


Mr Whippy - 17/3/23 at 07:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Post them, signed for?


Thanks, but that won't work in this case as I actually wanted to take them with me when picking up this car on Wednesday. Looks like a visit to Halfords on the way up is required.


coyoteboy - 17/3/23 at 08:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Probably cheaper to walk out the airport and go buy a new set from tool station than post them 😱



That'd be my bet, heavy to post and you'll need sturdy packaging.


Post is remarkably cheap and not based primarily on weight these days. I've posted several Kg overnight guaranteed for 8 quid with DX.

FWIW I think you'd happily get through security with those, I've taken worse, including a starter motor and a whole bunch of bike tools recently on an international flight (I fly monthly between Amsterdam and the UK). The security folk opened my bag with the starter and took out and swabbed the Nintendo Switch, and completely ignored the 5kg starter motor.

But if you're precious about them, don't risk it. Officially the rules say no:
https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/work-tools

[Edited on 17/3/23 by coyoteboy]


indykid - 17/3/23 at 09:15 AM

I've never had anything confiscated (except a bottle of Stroh80 rum in about 2002 - you can't have alcohol over 60% in the cabin apparently) but Dutch airport security really don't like wiring harnesses or electric actuators in hand luggage. They let them through eventually, but they call everyone over to have a look. It says no tools, but we regularly fly with a 3/8" electric impact wrench.

You can't have a full size butter knife to eat your food air side in an airport, but it was only after I'd flown with them twice that I realised I had 2 6" steel rules in my bag. I've also flown with a sharpened TIG tungsten.

If you're willing to risk them being confiscated by a jobsworth on a bad day, I'd give it a go, but for what you're trying to carry, it would probably be less stress to buy them if you need it. Realistically, you'd be better off buying more specialised tools to suit the job you encounter or nationwide recovery.


James - 17/3/23 at 09:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by indykid
I've never had anything confiscated (except a bottle of Stroh80 rum in about 2002 - you can't have alcohol over 60% in the cabin apparently)


2003, coming back from skiing in Austria I had exactly the same thing happen with Stroh 80 which I'd bought for a strong-stomached mate!

I literally left it on top of the x-ray machine!

On principle I bought a bottle of Stroh 60 once I was airside to give to my friend! It took him a *very* long time to get through it.


(Apologies for the tangent!)


indykid - 17/3/23 at 09:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by indykid
I've never had anything confiscated (except a bottle of Stroh80 rum in about 2002 - you can't have alcohol over 60% in the cabin apparently)


2003, coming back from skiing in Austria I had exactly the same thing happen with Stroh 80 which I'd bought for a strong-stomached mate!

I literally left it on top of the x-ray machine!

On principle I bought a bottle of Stroh 60 once I was airside to give to my friend! It took him a *very* long time to get through it.


(Apologies for the tangent!)

Mine was confiscated in Austria too, they had a cupboard full. They must look for the shape of the bottle - I bet they'll have quite the airport security christmas party!

Since we're off on one, we went to Prague for the christmas markets last year and went for a day in Dresden. I saw Stroh 80 in a supermarket and having regaled SWMBO with my story of my youth, grabbed a bottle and brought it back in the hold luggage. It was only when I got it home that I saw a no planes symbol on the back of the bottle and apparently alcohol over 70% is banned in hold luggage now so I was lucky to get that back.

I only bought some this time because I didn't get to taste any of the first bottle. Having tasted it, I expect it'll be largely ornamental (or a mean trick for the unsuspecting).


pewe - 17/3/23 at 09:57 AM

My experience is that they are more concerned about "bladed" objects.
So for their value I'd take them.
The other side of the coin is you buy them when you arrive you double up on those tools.
Logic says if you lose them to security you're buying them anyway.
Is the car your new classic or have I missed that?


Sanzomat - 17/3/23 at 11:24 AM

I had a pair of pliers confiscated at security on a Bristol to Edinburgh flight. I'd forgotten they were in my bag. They were only cheapo ones so didn't cost a lot for that lesson learnt


coyoteboy - 17/3/23 at 11:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Sanzomat
I had a pair of pliers confiscated at security on a Bristol to Edinburgh flight. I'd forgotten they were in my bag. They were only cheapo ones so didn't cost a lot for that lesson learnt


Needle nose or more blunt?


Sanzomat - 17/3/23 at 12:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
quote:
Originally posted by Sanzomat
I had a pair of pliers confiscated at security on a Bristol to Edinburgh flight. I'd forgotten they were in my bag. They were only cheapo ones so didn't cost a lot for that lesson learnt


Needle nose or more blunt?


Blunt. Did have wire cutters so not sure if they classed that as a blade. I tried to argue the point but the guy was a bit a of a jobsworth.


Sanzomat - 17/3/23 at 12:43 PM

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hand tools in luggage

The guidance seem fairly clear - pliers are on the prohibited list for hand luggage, as are wrenches/spanners

[Edited on 17/3/23 by Sanzomat]


Mr Whippy - 17/3/23 at 05:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by pewe

Is the car your new classic or have I missed that?


yeah I was going to take some tools (I do have breakdown cover but..) never mind I will just have to stop by Halfords. Cheers.


nick205 - 18/3/23 at 03:48 AM

Where are you off to?


JC - 18/3/23 at 06:25 AM

You could always speak to the airline beforehand and ask if they can be put in the hold?
Depends who it is on the reception you will get!


MikeR - 18/3/23 at 06:42 AM

Had someone in Edinburgh try to confiscate a clear spotty pink umbrella once. We'd flown up with it 3 days prior. Eventually after a LOT of discussion we agreed it was a walking said for my girlfriend.

Early 2000s a friend flew to Israel to pick up a fuel injection pump that had failed (his company made them). Literally flew in, met a guy in the airport, picked up a bag, went to get back on the return flight with the pump in hand luggage. It was only whilst he was going through security he realised he'd no idea what was in his hand luggage - to the point he didn't know if the pump was wet or dry.

Got through without issue. Refused to do it again.


harmchar - 18/3/23 at 05:16 PM

That’s 100% no. I once got stopped at Aberdeen airport because of a 10mm spanner at the bottom of a back pack. I asked the security guy what he thought I would be able to strip on the plane with one 10mm spanner. “Rules is rules” was his reply.


sdh2903 - 19/3/23 at 01:02 AM

I work in the industry as an aircraft engineer so have lots of experience of trying to get things in and out through security. Although I've had to deal with some unbelievable idiocy I generally have a lot of time for the security staff. It used to be a very well trained job with the appropriate salary. Nowadays it's barely above minimum wage with all sorts of crap shifts and the training is done over days Vs weeks or months. They have no clue if the guy taking his pliers through is a normal passenger or someone from the dft trying to catch them out. If they miss something like this going through a scanner and it's picked up then it's straight for a written warning or worse. They are not allowed to apply any form of common sense or it can cost them their jobs. Listening to the abuse hurled at them from passengers having their items confiscated isnt pleasant and not a job I would ever be able to stick at.


nick205 - 19/3/23 at 02:55 PM

Seems to be a "buy some when you get there".

Maybe keep them in the vehicle going forward or sell them on here, Ebay...when you're home.


coyoteboy - 19/3/23 at 05:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sanzomat
quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
quote:
Originally posted by Sanzomat
I had a pair of pliers confiscated at security on a Bristol to Edinburgh flight. I'd forgotten they were in my bag. They were only cheapo ones so didn't cost a lot for that lesson learnt


Needle nose or more blunt?


Blunt. Did have wire cutters so not sure if they classed that as a blade. I tried to argue the point but the guy was a bit a of a jobsworth.


You can carry blades under a set size.


motorcycle_mayhem - 24/3/23 at 09:39 AM

How things have changed. I took a BMW exhaust nut spanner (a big alloy toothed thing), a clutch pack and a pair of ignition coils as hand luggage, Heathrow to Sydney back in the early 90's. The aircrew were also quite happy to give me a full size bottle of red, which made the trip bearable on most occasions.


BenB - 27/3/23 at 06:49 AM

Last time we flew I forgot I had a bike multi-tool in my coat pocket. They weren't worried about the Allen keys but wouldn't allow the philips bit. Annoyingly when I got the replacement I realised it was possible to remove the individual bits so could have just sacrificed the philips which I don't tend to use!!!

[Edited on 27/3/23 by BenB]


BenB - 27/3/23 at 06:52 AM

The weird thing is the 3 long metal screws holding my hip together don't set off the metal detectors and they're definitely sharp pointy metal things!!


loggyboy - 27/3/23 at 10:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner
Thought this was a title of a new movie.

As long as the pilot is not the tool



coyoteboy - 27/3/23 at 11:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by motorcycle_mayhem
How things have changed. I took a BMW exhaust nut spanner (a big alloy toothed thing), a clutch pack and a pair of ignition coils as hand luggage, Heathrow to Sydney back in the early 90's. The aircrew were also quite happy to give me a full size bottle of red, which made the trip bearable on most occasions.


You could still take all but the spanner!


gingerprince - 27/3/23 at 11:54 AM

About 30 years ago I was flying from Leeds to Gatwick as part of a "raid" - I was the IT guy going to secure some data, which at the time meant plugging in a portable hard drive. I had a briefcase full of tools - screwdrivers, pliers, wire strippers, and the data equipment. I'd never flown before so had no idea I wasn't allowed to take them on! In the end I managed to get the case checked in the hold, but it was a bit of a red-face moment

I have successfully got back to the UK with a bottle of Stroh 80 however! Really brought the kitchen sink up a shine


gremlin1234 - 27/3/23 at 12:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BenB
The weird thing is the 3 long metal screws holding my hip together don't set off the metal detectors and they're definitely sharp pointy metal things!!

that's likely because they are titanium


BenB - 29/3/23 at 07:10 AM

Like like I'm going to have to get a titanium bike repair tool then!!


coyoteboy - 29/3/23 at 07:37 AM

Being Ti won't help you with anything, they can still see them on the baggage scanner and human scanners, they can see light plastic The only reason they ignore those is because they're stuck in your body and they assume you're not going to remove them. They can even tell the difference between different materials...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Travel/2017/a irport-liquids-scanner.jpg?imwidth=480

[Edited on 29/3/23 by coyoteboy]


liam.mccaffrey - 29/3/23 at 08:04 AM

I've taken micrometers through to the states in hand luggage at least twice with no issues.