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DaveFJ

posted on 7/7/04 at 01:27 PM Reply With Quote
More EU lunacy

you can't beat the EU for coming up with ridiculous ideas.......

Here





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Hugh Paterson

posted on 7/7/04 at 01:45 PM Reply With Quote
How unusual, all the more reason to join/vote the UKIP and tell em to get stuffed.
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David Jenkins

posted on 7/7/04 at 02:57 PM Reply With Quote
It may look odd, but I understand why they're doing it - blue and brown are the 2 colours that even colour-blind people can differentiate between. they may not be able to tell the difference between red and blue - and green for that matter!

Our domestic plugs are wired in blue, brown and green/yellow stripe for exactly the same reason.


The change-over could be interesting, though...

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DaveFJ

posted on 7/7/04 at 03:14 PM Reply With Quote
It was the 3 phase re-wiring that worried me.... black is the new blue... errr

(and anyone rewiring 3 phase shouldn't be colour blind!)





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mangogroove

posted on 7/7/04 at 03:54 PM Reply With Quote
Lets start a Sparky party and shock the b88888erds The three phase change is a shocker





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colibriman

posted on 7/7/04 at 06:12 PM Reply With Quote
It was the 3 phase re-wiring that worried me.... black is the new blue... errr

(and anyone rewiring 3 phase shouldn't be colour blind!)


know the feeling bout the 3 phase confusion.......i'll bet the control gear and cartridge fuse manufacturers will be rubbing their hands......

i can just picture lots of exploding main switches.....especially on big contracts....

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Peteff

posted on 7/7/04 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
I can hear it now.....

That's it, all wired up and ready to go. If you'd like to do the honours......





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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Deckman001

posted on 7/7/04 at 10:32 PM Reply With Quote
I'll stick to 24v, red and black, i build em, i work on em, sod evry body else !!

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 7/7/04 at 11:05 PM Reply With Quote
Collibri your right imagine the problems in old factories ten years down the line. with old and new colours........


In this case the old blue is phase 3 while the new blue represents neutral.

Also the old black would be neutral while the new black becomes phase 2.

Potential dangers that could be caused include:
short circuits
400V supplied to 230V load: leading to equipment damage
electric shock






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David Jenkins

posted on 8/7/04 at 07:31 AM Reply With Quote
I think the professionals will work it out pretty quick... otherwise Darwinism will soon sort out the chaff!

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Deckman001

posted on 8/7/04 at 04:40 PM Reply With Quote


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colibriman

posted on 8/7/04 at 04:57 PM Reply With Quote
trouble is....after the chaff has been there, the professional wheatcutter has to follow the chaff....and he had better take some paracetomol with him for the sore heeds he is gonna have.....trying to work out what chaff has done

or sommat...........

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drmike54

posted on 8/7/04 at 06:24 PM Reply With Quote
Wiring Colors

All the plants I have worked at here in the US have all 3 phases, Neutral and ground done with only black wire. Because of this you better check the connection and motor rotation on the startup. They do sometimes put small strips of tape on the end of the wire to designate the phase.
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colibriman

posted on 8/7/04 at 06:30 PM Reply With Quote
that sounds even worse...
its common over here to have control cable multicores all in black though.....

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 8/7/04 at 08:27 PM Reply With Quote
drmike54

whats it like using your welder on a 110 domestic supply......do all the neighbors have strobe lights! We use it in the UK as a safe voltage on sites. If one guys using something heavy all the rest suffer.






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Guinness

posted on 8/7/04 at 08:30 PM Reply With Quote
Gotta hand it to RS, advertising flame retardant tape on the same page as that article..
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colibriman

posted on 8/7/04 at 08:56 PM Reply With Quote
ha ha....i spotted that....
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Hugh Paterson

posted on 9/7/04 at 09:17 AM Reply With Quote
Syd Thats almost as good as the two motor launch that I used to run as small passenger boats in Scotland, could have knocked me over with a feather when I sussed that the bloody things were positive earth. What a nightmare, we had to rewire the fecking lot to deal with all the modern electrics, new starter motors, alternators in lieu of what was origionally a dyno. wondered why we got em so cheap
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