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andy188

posted on 29/8/19 at 06:18 AM Reply With Quote
arch stays breaking, new design

Arch stays broke again today, is there another design out here, or shall I remake out off thicker materials, I seem to be reweld these ever year, your thoughts appreciated,
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mcerd1

posted on 29/8/19 at 07:06 AM Reply With Quote
which uprights are they for / got any pics of your current ones showing were they break ?


just making them thicker will probably help, but its not necessarily the best answer - stiffening key area's, removing stress concentrations and making them from better / tougher material (not all steel is made equal) could give you a better all round design

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andy188

posted on 29/8/19 at 09:56 AM Reply With Quote
Hi,

They are of Haynes design on sierra hubs, they are breaking close to the fixing posns on the bottom ball joint fixing and the top stub posn,

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40inches

posted on 29/8/19 at 11:01 AM Reply With Quote
I haven't had any problems with the MK supplied ones.
I changed the flat strip for tubular fitting.
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Just read your last post. Here are a couple of photos of the MK fixing brackets.
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andy188

posted on 29/8/19 at 11:34 AM Reply With Quote
Great, Thanks for the photos, yeh the brackets going to ball joint etc are thicker than mine,

Looks like ill beef them up a bit, spoke to some off the guys at work, ive had a back back, so we softened the ride up, could be its too soft, allowing more movement off the arch, (vibrating, over bumps). Busy weekend ahead.

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russbost

posted on 29/8/19 at 12:21 PM Reply With Quote
I always use flat strip for arch stay fabrication, tube is too rigid & will tend to crack over time due to vibration (it's also relatively thin wall usually), using 5mm thick 25 or 30mm wide strip I've never had a stay break





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David Jenkins

posted on 29/8/19 at 05:18 PM Reply With Quote
There is always Plan B... absolutely no cracking after quite a few years of Suffolk roads. Prior to this mod the stays broke about 3 times.



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voucht

posted on 30/8/19 at 08:14 AM Reply With Quote
Hi,

My first ones broke very quickly too.

So I remade new ones with thicker steel strips (4mm) and tubes, welded on a larger triangular bottom plate, bolted at the bottom of the Sierra upright. Then same system as the book for the upper attach point on the upright.

They are not vibrating at all, they are very steady, and I never had any problem since.

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