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m_rayfield

posted on 11/5/02 at 02:43 PM Reply With Quote
Imobilisers for all?

Do you need some kinda imobiliser to get past the SVA test?
I remember reading somewhere that you did, but I dunno if this was just to make sure, or if this was to stop them failing you on sight!

Any advice much appreciated,

Mark

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theconrodkid

posted on 11/5/02 at 05:19 PM Reply With Quote
You need 1 imobiliser,steering lock dosnt count,just a switch in the ignition wiring will do but i got a battery isolater as well
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andyd

posted on 12/5/02 at 11:03 AM Reply With Quote
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You need 1 imobiliser,steering lock dosnt count,just a switch in the ignition wiring will do but i got a battery isolater as well


Do you need the steering lock then?
I'd rather completely strip down the steering column and just have an ignition switch on the dash. Would this be SVA legal?

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david walker

posted on 12/5/02 at 07:18 PM Reply With Quote
I have SVA coming up and was unsure about this. I telephoned the examiner at the SVA station and was told that the steering lock was sufficient.
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m_rayfield

posted on 12/5/02 at 11:21 PM Reply With Quote
What qualifies as an immobiliser exactly? Could I get away with any kind of switch in the starter motor circuit?
For anti-theft purposes does it have to be hidden somehow?

If I do have said immobiliser and the steering lock (just to cover all eventualities), can I then fit a push button starter?
Or can I fit one regardless?!

Questions, questions....

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jmbillings

posted on 13/5/02 at 07:03 PM Reply With Quote
We dont have a steering lock- used a sierra col. from a scrappy, no keys so just removed the whole lock mech (our car is Escort based).
For an immobilizer, I bought a "keylock" kit from Maplins- you have to make it yourself (bit of soldering) and it works on the ign. circuit. Pissed the sva guy off as we had to keep re-entering the code, so I think he accepted it immobilised it!

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m_rayfield

posted on 13/5/02 at 11:41 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers for the advice so far!

I'll be beginnning my search for a sierra column in a few weeks once uni has had it's pound of flesh... I'm escort based too so it's nice to know it's achieveable!
Any advice on what to keep/not bother with from the sierra?

One final (he says) question:
So if I just wire in some kinda unmistakeable immobiliser into the ignition circuit I can get away without having to have a steering lock fitted to the sierra's column, and pursue my dream of a push-button start?

I just dunno what I'd do without this site...

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David Jenkins

posted on 14/5/02 at 07:19 AM Reply With Quote
I certainly hope that a steering lock isn't a requirement! Mine's long gone, as it was placed almost exactly where my knee-cap would be - or at least where it would be when I climb in!

I'm planning to have some form of electronic lock - do you know the maplin code for your keylock, jmb?

David

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jmbillings

posted on 14/5/02 at 08:46 AM Reply With Quote
Code is VE76H, it's 24.99

Dont try and get it to operate everything- we first wired it up to cut out the main ignition feed, that fed the lights, blower etc etc, and when we went out in the dark and had everything on, it melted the circuit board! Now it just cuts the ign' feed to the coil.
One downside is the 4 digit code is hard-coded by which wires you connect on the board, so make sure you can remember it!

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chrisg

posted on 14/5/02 at 06:02 PM Reply With Quote
Hi all,

I've got some FIA approved battery cut-off switches, not the cheap and nasty ones - going cheap (actually they go sort of "clunk" when you move the bag - God I'm funny)

Cheap + postage

Mark aren't you in sunny sheff?, I could drop you one off!

Cheers

Chris





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ChrisW

posted on 14/5/02 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
I knocked up an immobiliser a year or so back for a mate - it used a touch key (looks luke a fat 5p piece on a key ring) which you press into socket on the dash for a second before driving away. Was dead easy to knock up from a Maplin module, relay and thyristor. Give me a shout if you want a hand with it.

Chris - might be interested in one of your switches for my Fiesta. How much? Can you post a picture?

Chris





Current projects: '87 XR2 full restoration, MG ZS 2.0 Turbo conversion, fitting a supercharger to my V6'd MR2......... and a petrol-powered Dodgem!

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chrisg

posted on 14/5/02 at 09:46 PM Reply With Quote
mmmmmmmm...... bout a fiver plus post

I'll take apiccy on the morrow.

Cheers

Chris





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m_rayfield

posted on 14/5/02 at 10:47 PM Reply With Quote
tell us when the picture's on - I'm definitely interested.

Still up here in sunny Sheffield, but head in a book at the moment due to exams v soon!

Well, I seem to find time for the odd internet shopping spree...

Are the cut-offs done on a key? Sorry, but I dunno much about electrics. Suppose that's all gonna change soon!






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chrisg

posted on 15/5/02 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Chaps,

The picture of the cut-off switch is on my photo archive. you turn and take out the black key to cut the power.

I'll take one to th Post office tommorow and find out how much the postage will be.

Cheers

Chris






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m_rayfield

posted on 16/5/02 at 12:41 AM Reply With Quote
Chris,
Don't mean to appear completely ignorant (which of course I actually am) but does it come with instructions?

No worries if not - it surely can't be that complicated to wire in! You just chuck it in-line with the ignition, yeah?

Anyway - I'll take one if that's still ok.
Are you ok to deliver still? (I'm up in Crookes if that helps you make a decision)

Nice nanny by the way...






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chrisg

posted on 16/5/02 at 06:09 PM Reply With Quote
Hey up Mark,

No it don't come with instructions, but I'll tell you when I drop it off.

Mail your address and a time you'll be in and I'll drop it off.

Re: the Nanny, I'm shagging that!

Cheers

Chris





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bob

posted on 16/5/02 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
A fiver,i'll have one of those chris.

Mail me your address, and i'll send you a gregory peck and P+P.






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chrisg

posted on 16/5/02 at 06:41 PM Reply With Quote
Don't know the postage yet - I'll get it done and mail you

Cheers

Chris





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Simon Mc

posted on 16/5/02 at 08:48 PM Reply With Quote
I agree with bob, to good a deal to miss out on. E-mail your address and ill do the same.
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ChrisW

posted on 17/5/02 at 12:06 AM Reply With Quote
Chris - I'll take two if you have enough still (and if you don't hate me 'cos of the pic!). Let me know what the postage is.

Chris

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 17/5/02 at 08:48 AM Reply With Quote
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Hey up Mark,

No it don't come with instructions, but I'll tell you when I drop it off.

Mail your address and a time you'll be in and I'll drop it off.

Re: the Nanny, I'm shagging that!

Cheers

Chris




Naaah, I dont beleive that. Shes smiling, and im sure she would be looking disappointed.

Or is that a look of knowing pity?

ATB

Steve

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Dunc

posted on 17/5/02 at 08:56 AM Reply With Quote
Oi! That my sister yous are talking about!
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bob

posted on 17/5/02 at 01:35 PM Reply With Quote
Dunc
is she single?






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chrisg

posted on 17/5/02 at 05:34 PM Reply With Quote
Right Chaps,

Postage is 1.10 so thats 6.10 all together per switch.

I'll mail my postal addres to:-

Bob,SimonMc and Chris W

Anyone else?

Cheers

Chris





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