Jon Leeper
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 posted on 16/9/03 at 11:55 AM |
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Ford engine!
Project currently stalled as suitable engine cannot be found! I have been looking for a renault 25 with the V6 and transaxle box, no joy anywhere!
On the "for sale" folder there is a ford cologne v6 from a 4x4 with the gearbox for a very cheap price. The question is this, can I adapt
the gearbox just to use the old front wheel drive for a mid engined rear wheel drive car? I know very little about the ford running gear and gearbox
design layout! Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated as I am getting frustrated about not moving forward with any useful work on the car!
Jon Leeper
If in doubt, blow it up!
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Alan B
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| posted on 16/9/03 at 12:35 PM |
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Hi Jon,
I don't know 100%, but I'd think the 4x4 would have a regularish gearbox with a propshaft running forward to front diff.
Not ideal for mid-engined useage IMO.
Have you ruled out a transverse unit?
Or definitely must be longditudinal?
Alan B
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Jon Leeper
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| posted on 16/9/03 at 12:51 PM |
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Not ruled out anything at this stage! Just having great problems finding a suitable engine/gearbox combination! The Renault V6 seemed a perfect
solution as it comes with the transverse box as standard, but I cannot find a single one! Have been thinking that the same engine was fitted to
various Volvos and, I think, Peugeots as well and therefore I should be able to mate it to a Renault box easily. Cost is the major factor though and
finding a cheep donor is proving very difficult. I am not sure if I am looking in the wrong places but I am starting to think that this is all very
difficult, not the fun project it should be! Also the delay is starting to wear me down :-( Still all things come to he who waits!
Jon Leeper
If in doubt, blow it up!
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kb58
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| posted on 16/9/03 at 03:37 PM |
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Have you done your required one year of reading (and rereading) design books? Surely an engine will show up over that time.
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tadltd
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| posted on 16/9/03 at 05:36 PM |
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Have you tried looking at Audi's? As far as I know, all their installations are all in-line (i.e. north-south in the chassis) with a transaxle
driving the front wheels, same as the Renault. At least they were up until the 80 was replaced by the A4... (et al)
I hear the 1.8 turbo engine goes some...
Steve.
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robinbastd
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| posted on 16/9/03 at 09:22 PM |
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Jon,
Ford Mondeo V6. It's fwd,probably got cable gear change,rear discs and they are out there and getting cheaper by the day.
No fannying about trying to mate gearboxes and surely there is a tail -ended one in a breakers somewhere. Isnt Cleave (not sure of the spelling) near
you?
Hope this helps,
Ian
Only a dead fish swims with the tide.
http://smuttygifts.com/
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Jon Leeper
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| posted on 18/9/03 at 10:58 AM |
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kb58
posted on 16/9/03 at 16:37
Have you done your required one year of reading (and rereading) design books? Surely an engine will show up over that time.
Yes! Have done the required reading - but was not activly looking for a donor as did not situate the estimate! ie I have let my research dictate
the outcome! Either that or I was to busy doing other things to start looking round scrappies! ;-)
I am starting to think that I am not looking in the right places as no one else has such problems locating donors! Any handy hints on the best places
to search? I have tended to avoid scrapyards as i don't think that I will be able to get a running engine and all of the anciliaries very
easily. I will always forget something and return to find out that I have missed the boat! I was looking for a running donor so I could clutter up
the neighbourhood with another scrap car as I dismantle it and then when I forget something it should still be there!
Any assistance greatfully recieved - as always
Jon Leeper
If in doubt, blow it up!
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auzziejim
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| posted on 18/9/03 at 01:29 PM |
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this may help you. no connection
Renault V6
cheers
James
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Jon Leeper
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| posted on 18/9/03 at 03:09 PM |
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auzziejim
posted on 18/9/03 at 14:29
this may help you. no connection
Renault V6
cheers
James
Thanks for that I have been looking for about 6 months! Know where there are any?
Jon Leeper
If in doubt, blow it up!
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timf
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| posted on 18/9/03 at 03:19 PM |
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click on the v6 bit and theres one there
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Jon Leeper
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| posted on 18/9/03 at 03:40 PM |
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Doh!
Sorry just call me Homer!
Jon Leeper
If in doubt, blow it up!
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Sideways 2 Victory
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| posted on 19/9/03 at 06:04 PM |
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Saab V6?
From something like a mid 90's 9000 Griffin. (See www.saabscene.co.uk for specs or guidance from their forum)
Or stuff the V6 & go for a 2.3 4 cylinder saab turbo for 200+ brake, direct injection and tunable boost!
Schweet
ATB
Dave
www.nurburgring.org
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philgregson
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| posted on 8/10/03 at 02:21 PM |
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Renault 21 (in 2l format) have the same transaxle as the 25 as far as I'm aware and are as common and cheap as a very cheap common thing.
If you can't find a V6 the 2l injection fom the 21 is a smashing engine although I don't know how tunable it is.
Finaly, isn't the Rover V8 commonly fitted to a Renault transaxle in kit cars.
I too have had the Renault plan for a future mid-engined project (not that I'll ever finish the LOCOST) I prefer the idea of a longitudinal
engine and transaxle to a transverse engine for weight distribution reasons.
P.S. The weight distribution issue has been discussed at great length in the past so I really don't want to start it again.
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KennyC
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| posted on 14/10/03 at 10:34 PM |
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I have a cracking scrappie near here - don't know how he makes any money though !
this boy just pulls all the engines and boxes out and leaves them in a big greasy rusting pile ! - as i say not good for his business - great for
idea's !
the ford 4x4 box is as described before - ie std direction as per sierra with short prop running forwards to small hang-on diff unit.
however - Subaru 4x4 box is very tasty indeed !! - as it usually runns a boxer engine it is like a transaxle at the front with a prop coming out the
back ! - you could use it as a transaxle with a conversion plate for the engine and use the prop out put as an Indycar style starter ! - drop the
weight of a starter motor !! (ok maybe that's taking it a wee bit too far but you get the picture !)
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