have been looking forward to this book as this is my next project.
any ideas what engine it plans to use?
Paul
Wooooo....... I do like that! 
Come on, chrisg spill the beans 
Fozzie
BEC 
Phil
Blade engine if I'm not mistaken........
[Edited on 19-1-09 by Hellfire]
Chris, any chance of a donor list ? pleeeease
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
.............BEC
Phil........
plan is to re do the rear end to take my spare 1.7 se engine transverse.
may be a little like this
[img]www.locostbuilders.co.uk/photos.php?action=showphoto&photo=single.jpg[/img]
[Edited on 19/1/09 by Paul (Notts)]
ok why dose the pic not work?
[Edited on 19/1/09 by Paul (Notts)]
[Edited on 19/1/09 by Paul (Notts)]
next year?! 
Looks great!
Hope to get a copy when it comes out.
Cheers
Mike
looks good allthough not personally very keen on the the styling, would prefer something sleeker and more modern. but i guess that would be easily
done.
Paul your URL is wrong, heres your pic
Description
It is only a computer generated image though folks.
I do hope that the finished article manages to look substantially the same (classic 60s styling) but addresses the issues which IM(very)HO need
sorting.
Roll bar bracing
Where do your legs go ?
Seat angle / width
Why is the steering wheel away down there ?
Those rear coilovers are on a peculiar position.
Really, I'm genuinely not looking to be over critical - the acheivement in getting things this far is phenomenal, but let the man finish the
design and take it from there. It should be great.
(Dons flak jacket, but I genuinely wish the project all the best)
Ummm thought it was hush hush....
But can say there will be different styles to suit the chassis...sharknose ferrari etc....
I have all but finished the plug to make it..the pic isn't quite accurate because things change but it's a reality and will be available..quite a trick wee beast
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
Ummm thought it was hush hush....
But can say there will be different styles to suit the chassis...sharknose ferrari etc....
I so want this book .......... shame it won't pass IVA / SVA
it has no seat belts on the picture! 
(i can see the bits that a seat belt attaches too before someone points it out)
Do you think you can make it for less than 50k?
Want one!
build for 5k rather 50k and think its going to be big so best get your order booked soon......
looks great, can't wait for this book.
I think styling based on old Lotus F1 or FF1600 (?) would be awesome. Lotus type 49 is nice hint hint.
I await progress with anticipation.
Steve.
So shall I do one? Here's one I prepared earlier!
[img]http://
[/img]
I could title it "Creating a Furore" - what do you think???
Although of course mine's not a single seater.
Just what every garage needs, a 60's single seater for the road as well as the track.....
Mark
Any chance of making it look like this, but with lights?
Because that would be very
You been peeping?...
and yes it has headlights
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
You been peeping?...
and yes it has headlights
DIY Si, I always wanted one too!
I saw the 'possibilities' as soon as I saw the first pic from Amazon in Rod Ends first post....
Gone and done it now..me minds working over time...not sure about bec though.....
Fozzie
I'm already deciding what engine I want. One page on here, the other on Ebay! There's a bloke on PH with a road legal Lotus 22, with an R1
engine, IIRC, in it. Looks likes a lot of fun.
Any idea what the target weight will be? Sub 400kg?
like it like it, can you imagine the reaction it would get by other road users
picture the scenario.... getting pulled over by old bill " who do you think you are , Damon Hills father?" lol
gotta have one of those!!
andy
quote:
Originally posted by handyandy
like it like it, can you imagine the reaction it would get by other road users
picture the scenario.... getting pulled over by old bill " who do you think you are , Damon Hills father?" lol
gotta have one of those!!
andy
quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
I'd take it to Tesco for a pint of milk, just for the fun of it!
quote:
Originally posted by Simon
quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
I'd take it to Tesco for a pint of milk, just for the fun of it!
Yeah, but there's no boot
ATB
Simon
I think it was Triple C mag who did a Lotus FF in the late 60's for the road.
Interesting that Amazon have scooped even the Haynes website, maybe that's why Chris hasn't commented (yet).
From the length of the engine bay it looks like it would take a CEC mounted longitudinally assuming a suitable transaxle. Though the rendering (FWIW)
looks like a BEC chain drive.
Would look better with one of your seats (and/or a headrest) Mr Triton.
Hmmm, interesting.
So with headlights I suppose its going to be road legal. Just what myself and countless others have been wanting.
Now hurry up and write the bloody book, Chris.
Or atleast drop us enough hints about what bits to start stocking up with.
EDIT: that colour scheme almost looks like the colours of a budgie. I'm going to have to change my avatar
[Edited on 20/1/09 by balidey]
Wonder why Chris hasn’t commented?!? Even I have to say I’m interested in this little thing, god my Lambo wheels and tyres would look great on that
Though tbh I'd expect it should be possible to build for far less than 5k!!! What happened to the locost build things on a budget sprit??? I
could by a good production car for that amount!
[Edited on 20/1/09 by Mr Whippy]
Chris is away on holiday and the book is all but done I think..needs bits here and there etc.
I was surprised to see it on here although Chris was showing folk pictures at the show.
Lights are mental, can't say anymore than that.
Fozzie....it just has to be a bike engine you know it makes sense but being so light it won't need a R1 etc you get get away with an R6 and still
scare yourself.
Like I said in earlier post...every garage should have one.....
Mark
You might well be able to buy a production car for same amount but it's a production car and boring as anyone can have one....
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Wonder why Chris hasn’t commented?!? Even I have to say I’m interested in this little thing, god my Lambo wheels and tyres would look great on that
Though tbh I'd expect it should be possible to build for far less than 5k!!! What happened to the locost build things on a budget sprit??? I could by a good production car for that amount!
[Edited on 20/1/09 by Mr Whippy]
What it really needs is a one make race series. Yes please.........
Neat touches with wings too....
Mark
quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Wonder why Chris hasn’t commented?!? Even I have to say I’m interested in this little thing, god my Lambo wheels and tyres would look great on that
Though tbh I'd expect it should be possible to build for far less than 5k!!! What happened to the locost build things on a budget sprit??? I could by a good production car for that amount!
[Edited on 20/1/09 by Mr Whippy]
Good luck buying a production car with the same performance potential as a sub 350kg (educated guess) BEC powered single seater for £5k.
What it really needs is a one make race series.
Who wants a sensible car anyway, life is too short to be the same as everyone else...
DO WANT
I think I'd turn BEC for that ^__^
[Edited on 20/1/09 by Benzine]
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
DO WANT
I think I'd turn BEC for that ^__^
[Edited on 20/1/09 by Benzine]
how embarrassing
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
Gone and done it now..me minds working over time...not sure about bec though.....
Fozzie
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
DO WANT
I think I'd turn BEC for that ^__^
Oh yes, just in case it's not too late or just an early render, the rollbar needs a rear brace (like the car in DIY Si's photo).
13months to wait for the book - that's going to be the hard part now - any chance that can be speeded up now the cat is out of the bag?
[Edited on 20/1/09 by iank]
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Oops we may both eat or words...
still think my 3ltr v6 in that would be super
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
DO WANT
I think I'd turn BEC for that ^__^
Just be honest with yourself..... You've always wanted to turn BEC..... This is just an excuse to actually do it.
Phil
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
Gone and done it now..me minds working over time...not sure about bec though.....
Fozzie
Wash your mouth out girl!!!
Phil
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
Gone and done it now..me minds working over time...not sure about bec though.....
Fozzie
Wash your mouth out girl!!!
Phil
"I’ll buy the book when it comes out just to see what its like. It’s the diff that bothers me as that would probably be one of the most expensive
parts"
That clever bloke Mr Gibbs has sorted this bit...
The expensive bit will be fuel because you will never want to stop driving it.....
Well
I thought it was a secret too.
I'll try to answer some of the questions.
I've been on holiday, not hiding
The actual roll bar is 50mm CDS, which is pretty substantial,I hadn't planed to use a brace, but I'll have a think about that.
The prototype has a Honda Fireblade engine and a Sierra diff converted to chain drive along with hubs and disk brakes - I'm looking to include a
converted FWD diff, possibly Ford or Vauxhall, as an alternative.
The styling is '60s F1. Thanks to Triton there will be two nose styles when the book comes out. The car should be a good canvas for folks to
design their own body in whatever era takes thelr fancy.
The headlights have a folding system which means that you can fold them away when not in use.
The rendering is just that - a rendering, the styling and details will be different. I wasn't expecting that to be used, I didn't think
Haynes did either!
I'm enjoying building the car and I hope that others will build them too (or at least buy the book!!)
Thanks for all the comments and I'll keep you posted.
Cheers
Chris
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
...
The actual roll bar is 50mm CDS, which is pretty substantial,I hadn't planed to use a brace, but I'll have a think about that.
...
quote:
The rendering is just that - a rendering, the styling and details will be different. I wasn't expecting that to be used, I didn't think Haynes did either!
quote:
I'm enjoying building the car and I hope that others will build them too (or at least buy the book!!)
...
Cheers
Chris
Hope you had a good holiday Mr Chris and hope I said the right things?.........
Yes Mark, I had a good break thanks and a bit of a surprise when I read this!!
Cheers
Chris
Dam it this means i'll need to rent a second garage, good luck with the book chrisi remember flicking through the draughts at stoneleigh.
Will there be a haynes single seater forum or is chrisw making some space here ?
Bob......There is!
Thread now moved there!
Fozzie
Only problem is, do I get this or the Epona, or risk a divorce and go for both!?
quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
Only problem is, do I get this or the Epona, or risk a divorce and go for both!?
That looks great. just thinking though...BEC, IVA, Reverse???????
Ok when in the tunnel on a seven, not much room behind the motor.
Kipper.
quote:
Originally posted by kipper
That looks great. just thinking though...BEC, IVA, Reverse???????
Ok when in the tunnel on a seven, not much room behind the motor.
Kipper.
What Si said !
Cheers
Chris
Fabby-Doo!
I will defo be buying the book Looks mint!!!!!
O
do we have any sizes of the single seater and im going to need a bigger garage
That is awesome, can't wait for the book.
Any hint on whether there are any V8+transaxle (not the insane 2xBEC one) that could be squeezed in - would make it completely perfect - though the
BEC option is pretty close.
Audi?
quote:
Originally posted by iceman26
do we have any sizes of the single seater and im going to need a bigger garage
I think i'll have to do that to our sig too. Ha ha ha ha ha, just had a look, nearly 2500 views already, should be a popular book then Chris
Regards
John
maybe a v-twin engine mounted longtitudinal to a 'normal' RWD diff. Should be quite short.
If you're designing your own bodywork you could "stretch" the chassis a bit to suit a car engine, but I've got enough on doing the
bike engined version!
Cheers
Chris
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
If you're designing your own bodywork you could "stretch" the chassis a bit to suit a car engine, but I've got enough on doing the bike engined version!
Cheers
Chris
Mmmmm. Few modifications to the bodywork and voila..........
Phil
what are the options for a steering rack, chaps
quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
what are the options for a steering rack, chaps
There is.........
..........but it's a secret, I could tell you but I'd have to.....etc.
The car uses a steering rack and column from a common production car.
Cheers
Chris
I looked at some truly jaw droppingly nice looking hicost option when I was over the pond there alan
Stab in the dark, cinquicento??
[Edited on 21/1/09 by liam.mccaffrey]
Well done Liam.
Keep it to yourself though, or the prices on the bay will spiral!
Cheers
Chris
wanted !!!!!!!!!
cosworth DFV 8
must be perfect working order and very cheap
new kit project starting soonish !!!!!!
lol
les g
can I ask where the fuel tanks located?
It's behind the driver's seat, low down.
Cheers
Chris
quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
I looked at some truly jaw droppingly nice looking hicost option when I was over the pond there alan
Stab in the dark, cinquicento??
[Edited on 21/1/09 by liam.mccaffrey]
Lotus 51R
[img][/img]
Even then you'd need a set of these linky to take to the motorways.
he he he
andy
Hmm certainly truck wheels will take on a new meaning
May I suggest fitting several very loud horns and a flag Many 4x4's will just not be able to see you at all so it will require the best in
defensive driving. Might have a similar problem as bikers do in that it might not registered as a car or be noticed by those not paying attention.
James Dean’s accident apparently was due to his silver porsche speedster just being too unusual to be subconsciously recognized as a car by the other
driver. Certainly wouldn’t paint one black that’s for sure, red or Lotus colours with the yellow stripes would be best IMO.
No different to driving a 7 on the motorway apart from a lot more street cred....The old saying of "loud pipes save lives" would be best
applied....
it looks even lower than a 7 tbh and narrower
quote:
Originally posted by iank
Even then you'd need a set of these linky to take to the motorways.
diesel?
ATB
Simon
No - just wrong!
Cheers
Chris
^ ^ ^ ^
DIESEL IS EVIL!!!!
O
quote:
Originally posted by Simon
diesel?
ATB
Simon
A big stroker would be natty if a tad expensive to run as most only do about 10mpg and slurp oil like it's free...sound and smell mad though...
.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
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thought these pics might be of some help
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chassis is upsides down obviously here. The dash bulkhead is simply two pressed sheets welded either side of the tubes, the sheets don't even
appear to be welded together as you can see the gap
[Edited on 26/1/09 by Mr Whippy]
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Meant to ask sooner, what size person will fit in the car? Is it a classic Lotus size, or can normal folk fit? I ask as I'm 6'3" and 15 st. And I really would like to fit in it!
Well I fit in, but I have the body of a god.
Bhudda.
Ask anyone who knows me, I won't be winning any "Mr Thin" titles anytime soon.
Height wise the pedals are adjustable in five positions, hopefully it should accomodate folks from 5'5" to 6'5", but I can't
be certain as I'm the only one who's sat in it so far (making brum brum noises!)
Cheers
Chris
Good to see it's not the normal Lotus size then! Should I find it too short/narrow/whatever, how much scope is there for the chassis to be altered?
quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
can normal folk fit? I ask as I'm 6'3" and 15 st.
quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
Good to see it's not the normal Lotus size then! Should I find it too short/narrow/whatever, how much scope is there for the chassis to be altered?
(solution don't make that schoolboy
error )
quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
Meant to ask sooner, what size person will fit in the car? Is it a classic Lotus size, or can normal folk fit? I ask as I'm 6'3" and 15 st. And I really would like to fit in it!
sounds like I'd need to cut a big chunk out the middle seeing how 'tall' I am
looks a fun car.
Chris - are you going to give details of conversion of the Sierra diff to use with a chain drive? like dimensions of the oil/grease cover (I would
just fab it out of steel pipe and plate, sealed with o-rings. Or are you just going to say buy one of the super expensive diffs...
Also are the drive shafts shortened? If so how are you showing that being done??
[Edited on 27/1/09 by Mr Whippy]
Yes, the details of the diff conversion will be in the book, hopefully there will be a FWD diff in as well for all the old ladies who complain that
there aren't any Sierra bits left.
There should be a supplier that can do the both diff conversions by the time the book comes out for those who don't fancy it, priced at about
£500
Cheers
Chris
EDIT: The driveshafts will be unequal lengths, I'm not sure if we're going to cut and sleeve the Sierra shafts or provide drawings for new
ones - maybe both.
C
[Edited on 27/1/09 by chrisg]
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
can normal folk fit? I ask as I'm 6'3" and 15 st.
Normal, mathematically, is the centre of a normal distribution. For men in the UK that is 5' 9" and 12st 8lbs (1.755m and 79.75kg for the under 40s). At 6'3" you're way outside of "normal"
The only people I know that are 5'9" are girls!
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
EDIT: The driveshafts will be unequal lengths, I'm not sure if we're going to cut and sleeve the Sierra shafts or provide drawings for new ones - maybe both.
Thanks for the suggestions, most of the parts are already made but there will be some tweaking.
With the engine in, the sprocket is very close to the nearside and obviously the diff sprocket needs to line up with it, if you had the diff sprocket
central the engine would be outside the chassis by 250mm on the offside.
I'd agree that the shafts wouldn't be a diy proposition but providing a drawing gives you something to take to the machine shop.
The front suspension is different to the Roadster - it's top rocking arm with inboard dampers. At the rear the upright is similar but there
isn't the height to mount the shock on top of the upright so it acts on the lower wishbone instead.
Cheers
Chris
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
EDIT: The driveshafts will be unequal lengths, I'm not sure if we're going to cut and sleeve the Sierra shafts or provide drawings for new ones - maybe both.
did you notice that the front driver side sierra 4x4 drive shaft is already very short?
I know the drive shafts are normally different lengths due to the way the diff is made for the Sierra. But when converted to use a chain drive, having different lengths becomes completely pointless as the engine can be located so the chain would naturally be offset.
Also IIRC the drive shafts have splines on the ends for the CV joint spiders (retained by external circlips), so unless people have access to a milling machine…brand new DIY shafts are not an option.
From what I can tell, really the front end just needs to be the same as the Hanes Roadster, using the same wishbones and uprights rather than some fancy fabricated uprights like I think you originally suggested. The only difference is the width of the chassis nothing else.
The rear can be just like Lotus used in the above pictures, made from simple tie rods and even use the same uprights as the IRS car too, no need to reinvent the wheel as most of the two cars could/should be interchangeable to keep the costs down.
This is awesome, can't wait for the book!
Pretty sure there's no chance of this being road legal in australia though
An alternative to the sierra diff would definitely be useful, pretty sure we didn't get any of those down here.
Chain driven diff's are available at a price from folk like Quaiffe..
quote:
Originally posted by CrispyFries
This is awesome, can't wait for the book!
Pretty sure there's no chance of this being road legal in australia though
An alternative to the sierra diff would definitely be useful, pretty sure we didn't get any of those down here.
BECs have been done in Australia, so maybe it won't be just a track car
Just need the book
[Edited on 2/2/09 by CrispyFries]
If you can't wait - £3995 with trailer
I'd forgotten how "spindley" the suspension is on those!
That'd make a great hillclimber
**smashes piggy bank and starts counting copper**
Cheers
Chris
Bit modern though, now if someone was to make a 1960's style hill climber then tickety boo......
Cheers,
Mark
Any sneaky pics yet? There must be a little teaser you can let us have?
I've only got the one that's on Amazon, the bodyworks not finished. (is it Mark?)
Cheers
Chris
Almost....just being fussy.
Cheers,
Mark
No chassis pics then either?
pics or it didn't happen
It better happen because I have spent a fortune in time and money making the plugs, I'm at the "just being fussy before making the
moulds" stage.....
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
It better happen because I have spent a fortune in time and money making the plugs, I'm at the "just being fussy before making the moulds" stage.....
it better happen cos i,m waiting for it!
andy
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
Yes, the details of the diff conversion will be in the book, hopefully there will be a FWD diff in as well for all the old ladies who complain that there aren't any Sierra bits left.
There should be a supplier that can do the both diff conversions by the time the book comes out for those who don't fancy it, priced at about £500
[Edited on 27/1/09 by chrisg]
and a quick google came up with this supplier...
http://www.westgarage.co.uk/services/chain/chaindrives.html
quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
Yes, the details of the diff conversion will be in the book, hopefully there will be a FWD diff in as well for all the old ladies who complain that there aren't any Sierra bits left.
There should be a supplier that can do the both diff conversions by the time the book comes out for those who don't fancy it, priced at about £500
[Edited on 27/1/09 by chrisg]
I believe Sylva can already provide a conversion kit for a FWD diff - as used in the Riot
quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
and a quick google came up with this supplier...
http://www.westgarage.co.uk/services/chain/chaindrives.html
quote:
Originally posted by minitici
quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
and a quick google came up with this supplier...
http://www.westgarage.co.uk/services/chain/chaindrives.html
)
Wow!
Something has leak.
Looks....... Hem! I know how it looks, just gorgeous.
Regards,
Cobra289 [Carlos]
Yeah, suprised me too Carlos!!
Cheers
Chris
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
Yeah, suprised me too Carlos!!
Cheers
Chris
Hi,
Don't worry it is for the good cause, I have put a link at the Spanish forum [very small forum] but every one has appreciate the concept.
Some of them did ask if the book will be translated to Spanish Language like the "Ron Champion" book.
At the other hand I can say that my son has started to build the locost. You can find the thread with lots of pictures here:
LCCT
Regards,
Cobra289 [Carlos]
hi there,
is a release date for the book set?
blake
quote:
Originally posted by ceebmoj
hi there,
is a release date for the book set?
blake
I figured from the thread that the book release was going to be much sooner than that are ther any pictures or other information available
ceebmoj
Chris,
Is it going to be a metro rack? They can be shortened right down.
As for chain diffs, if you use the diff from a ford fiesta /escort (BC box) they come with one driveshaft that is a hollow tube.
If you get another hollow one for the other side they are very easy to shorten and because of the bigger diameter are still very strong once modded.
This was recomended to me by Ian Scott of Megapin (serious hill climb single seater) fame.
Chris,
Is it going to be a metro rack? They can be shortened right down.
As for chain diffs, if you use the diff from a ford fiesta /escort (BC box) they come with one driveshaft that is a hollow tube.
If you get another hollow one for the other side they are very easy to shorten and because of the bigger diameter are still very strong once modded.
This was recomended to me by Ian Scott of Megapin (serious hill climb single seater) fame.
any figures for an all up weight yet?
looks like a cracking project tho!
looks great
Thanks for the comments chaps, I'll try to answer some of the questions.
Release date - We're aiming for Jan/Feb 2010, it might be earlier depending on the IVA and testing program, as you'll appreciate it's
got to be right before we publish.
A Spanish version? Hopefully. I'm still looking for a Spanish publisher for the Roadster book, any suggestions welcome.
The rack is a Fiat item and the Ford diff is one of the ones I'm looking at - this will have to wait untill the protoype is up and running
though.
Weight? I dunno!
The prototype is likely to be a little heavier than following cars, I've used slightly thicker box section, because of the possibility of having
to make modifications and steel wheels because I like the look of them!
Cheers
Chris
yep it looks the business. Definately one for the Amazon pre order.
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
Yes, the details of the diff conversion will be in the book, hopefully there will be a FWD diff in as well for all the old ladies who complain that there aren't any Sierra bits left.
Quick question Chris. As when the Roadster book came out will there be a company offering pre fabricated chassis/ suspension packages etc for those whose welding/fabricating skills aren't really up to the job?
quote:
Originally posted by jabbahutt
Quick question Chris. As when the Roadster book came out will there be a company offering pre fabricated chassis/ suspension packages etc for those whose welding/fabricating skills aren't really up to the job?
everything from indiviual plates up to fabricated wishbones & chassis. Excellent news, cheers John. do you have an idea when you'll be able to provide rough ideas on costs for such items?
Not until the book is released, as soon as it is, the web pages will be viewable. Until then it would be unfair to Chris.
Regards
John
And for those not keen on making their own body for the beastie we will be offering the fibreglass panels as per the book...same as 3ge though, have
to wait for the release of said book..
Still no sneaky pics then Triton?
Thanks fellas, I appreciate you not being able to provide information until the book is out.
It's just nice to know that for those of us who lack certain skills such as welding and working with fiberglass there is still the ability to
build one of these. If only these were the only two areas my skills are lacking I'd of got my car built a lot quicker
[Edited on 27/4/09 by jabbahutt]
hi any news or picks?
I'm not allowed to show pics sorry but like a pint of the black stuff, good things come to those that wait....
Cheers,
Mark
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
I'm not allowed to show pics sorry but like a pint of the black stuff, good things come to those that wait....
Cheers,
Mark
Guinness is a damn fine tipple if a little bit responsible for folk falling over due to it's in built gravity removing properties...........
April 2010 now I appreciate that a lot of hard work must go into a book like this just keen to read it.
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
Guinness is a damn fine tipple if a little bit responsible for folk falling over due to it's in built gravity removing properties...........
Oct 2010 according to Amazon now.
Is that realistic?
As Chris is unable to answer the question, i'll tell you what i know.
I understand that Haynes are looking to promote both the new book and the existing Roadster book at the Autosports show in January. If i remember
correctly Haynes only release books twice a year, February and October/November time. If they're promoting in January.........
Regards
John
any news ????
quote:
Originally posted by belgian2b
any news ????
Did anyone go to the autosport show? Just wondered if haynes released any info???
Dan
quote:
Originally posted by 3GEComponents
As Chris is unable to answer the question, i'll tell you what i know.
I understand that Haynes are looking to promote both the new book and the existing Roadster book at the Autosports show in January. If i remember correctly Haynes only release books twice a year, February and October/November time. If they're promoting in January.........
Regards
John
I had a chat via email with chris yesterday and he told me september this year,but this isnt set in stone and sadly the next Autosport show (2011)may
actually be more realistic.
If and when i get more information i will pass it on.
[Edited on 29/1/10 by bob]
Just noticed Amazon are now predicting 15 April 2011
Amazon recently sent me an email inviting me to buy it, excitedly I clicked the link, but noticed the not released tag
So still nothing yet?
Hows about now???
I'm gonna have to get the Indy finished sharpish, always lusted after a single seater like this.
Might even be tempted to sell the Manta to fund it
Amazon has: Publisher: Haynes Publishing (15 April 2011)
thats a long time :-(
Yeah cos we'll have all finished building our sevens by then
Really - excellent I'll then have a new build to spend years on. Oooooh, i can't wait to finish the seven.
Lets face facts, petrol will run out before this book hits print!
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Originally posted by Mark Allanson
Lets face facts, petrol will run out before this book hits print!
Might be able to offer some helpful info for alternative diffs for bike engine options.
The key for chain drive is getting one with a bolt on crown wheel, a lot are shrank on.
I've nearly finished a bike engined fiat middy, and used an original fiat fwd diff from a 6 speed gearbox. All it took was an adaptor plate and
some bearing carriers and it works well enough. Not something that can easily be made without a lathe or milling machine but the parts could come in
very cheap if sold as a kit.
The fiat seicento driveshafts are also quite short as its only got a narrow track and might be ideal.
And they mate up to suzuki sj diffs quite nicely too if you need a rwd diff instead.
I can't wait for this book - I will be building one!
Hi Guys,
I've heard from Chris this morning, and he's said it's OK for us to display the Single Seater chassis at the The Great Western Kit
& Car Builder Show on the 23rd & 24th October.
We're on stand M77, so, I'd best get my finger out and finish it off ready for the powdercoaters
Kind regards
John.
oooooooo send me some pics kind sir...fabbyglass@btinternet.com....
and if allowed to the rest of us on here .... PLEASE
Mark, is your phone working?
kind regards
John
does this mean that there are some photos about of the chasy now?
just noticed amazon has release date as April 15th 2011. Do we know if this is set in stone? Really looking forward to reading this.
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Originally posted by jabbahutt
just noticed amazon has release date as April 15th 2011. Do we know if this is set in stone? Really looking forward to reading this.
Just had an email from Amazon, said that the copy i ordered will be shipped in Feb of 2012. I dont know if i can wait that long.
Eeek - suspect that is just a 'holding statement' and the real shipment date will be a bit different. Real shame as I wanted it for last
Christmas, then my birthday, then this Christmas
Hope Chris manages to get it finished soon.
hi all,
is there any info on the book? or new pictures for us all to have a look at?
is this book still coming out in April - seems to have gone rather quiet??
Having spent the weekend playing with my neighbour's 1960's cooper/BRM Junior Forumla1 car, my appetite has been whetted...
This may turn out to be the longest running thread ...........
Been on the Haynes web site and seen this from someone who's got it on order on Amazon.
"Chris Gibbs "Build Your Own Single-Seater: On a Budget"
***Previous estimated arrival date: February 22 2012 - February 23 2012
***New estimated arrival date: January 07 2012"
I keep asking but no news
This may be an ignorant question but why is it taking so damned long?!! There were part-built photos earlier in this thread. Surely can't have
been that much more to do if you're building cars for a living? Wouldn't it be in their (the manufactures) interest to get it done ASAP and
make kits/the book available?
Like I say these may be ignorant questions and invite anyone with better information to shoot me down in flames
Thanks
Dan
Haynes are the publisher.
Chris is the author. From what I've read previously Chris hasn't been well & hasn't finished the book.
I'm sure the people who've made the moulds or chassis would love the book published so they can make many more ..... but like everyone else,
we're waiting on Chris to get better.
(and on the grand scheme of things, Chris getting better is far more important than any book)
quote:
Originally posted by dan8400
Surely can't have been that much more to do if you're building cars for a living? Wouldn't it be in their (the manufactures) interest to get it done ASAP and make kits/the book available?
Didn't realise Chris had been ill, wish him well to a speedy recovery.
Best wishes Chris, Get well soon, guess I'll be doing a lot more diving this year.
tony
Just pre ordered my copy it says 10-12 Jan 2012
Does any-one have a picture of what the chassis looks like.
tony
3ge blokes should have all that kind of thing
I seem to remember late (ish) last year the chassis was going to be available for viewing at a car show, the question is, is the chassis or bodywork
or even better both going to be displayed at any car shows this year?
And if so which show?
Just tried accessing the 3GE website and it says that the domain name is reserved for future use. Anyone got a correct web address for 3GE? or are they completely overhauling their website maybe?
I believe 3GE have ceased trading.
So, if 3GE were making the chassis and have gone bust and Chris is ill (sorry to hear about that btw) does that mean the project is at a dead
stand-still? Or worse still, dead altogether?
Thanks
Dan
I don't believe 3GE went bust, back in Feb I was enquiring why I couldn't order something off the web site
And I quote 'We have stopped production of Roadster parts, I have had a job offer that was too good to turn down, sadly it leaves me with little
spare time, so something had to give'
I have no other details.
No, 3GE didn't go "bust" I moved on to other things, and seeing as there are only 24 hours in a day, it left little time to do all
the things for the Roadster as well.
It's not to say that I won't start doing parts again in the future, just not now.
As regards the single seater, watch this space, I have chatted with Chris recently so know what the score is.
Kind regards
John
quote:
Originally posted by 3GEComponents
I have chatted with Chris recently so know what the score is.
John
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra289
quote:
Originally posted by 3GEComponents
I have chatted with Chris recently so know what the score is.
John
So you guys have the time to play a game?
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
3GE won 2-1
Where the heck have I been and why haven't I heard about this until two years after the original post???
Looks GORGEOUS, I haven't started my 7 yet and now I'm questioning if I should just build the single seater..... You guys and your lust
worthy cars, you're making it difficult for me!
Beags
Is this becoming one of the longest running threads? Started on 19-01-09!!
Thanks
Dan
HMMM, over two years for something thats (next year) lol
Ray
Who is doing the chassis build up ? because the person who did the roadster is not doing the single seater
I missed Stoneleigh, was the single seater there?
Thanks
Dan
quote:
Originally posted by dan8400
I missed Stoneleigh, was the single seater there?
Thanks
Dan
Any news on how Chris is?
can anyone tell me if this book has come out? thanks jesse
quote:
Originally posted by gto1973
can anyone tell me if this book has come out? thanks jesse
I ordered it in 2011
The date is currently saying 8th July 2013 is the due date.
thats a long wait!!! i just like to build one id prefer to build that over a seven style. ist there any plans around for a similar design i havnt
found anything else yet..
thanks for your replies
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
quote:
Originally posted by gto1973
can anyone tell me if this book has come out? thanks jesse
i doubt it ever will, open wheeled cars are not allowed on track days and it would be a difficult and impractcal car to use on the roads, so where would you use it?
I would still buy the book if it ever came out just for the engineering
yea thats what i thought but i wouldnt have a clue an duno what our regulations are in nz anyway. thats no good about his health!! hope he comes around!
This books available for Pre-order on amazon, don't see a date of release though.
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Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
This books available for Pre-order on amazon, don't see a date of release though.
Haynes took back their book advance from Andy H formerly of Saturn Sports Cars a year ago then went and took every thing to do with the chassis from Nathan at NTS, I don't see any body in a rush to pick up a project that does not have a justifiable place in the market.
Amazon says: This title will be released on April 7, 2015.
There was a couple of builders of "said car" on this site, years and years ago, never heard from them since
Its a good job a few of us built our locosts 10-14 years ago, as this site would never of happened
Hi guys,
My name is Julio i'm from Brazil.
The mega book store in the Brazil sold me this book: Build your own single-seater.
My question is:
The book this sales ?
Sorry my bad english.
Thanks...
As far as I can gather, this book has been abandoned, you have been sold another one
I canceled the purchase of the book. Go back my money.
You have some other book build a single-seater ?
Thanks
Gents,
I'm resurrecting an ancient thread rather than start a new one.
After much searching, I can't find any info on possible plans for this car. I know the book is cancelled (or due in 2020 according to Amazon.ca)
but just plans would work for many of us. Even a *.pdf available for purchase on signing a single-use licence would attract my interest.
I am planning a scratch built spaceframe GT40, but time/money don't allow it at the moment, so I thought a little BEC single-seater would work.
'60s F1 is my interest, so anything that is BrabLotus esq would work for me and I don't really have the time to do the design/CAD work at
the moment.
I miss my Striker (built in '98, sold in '09) but my wife is content with my Mustang so there's no interest in another 7esq car and
I'm looking for a mid-engine single seater option.
Hi Stew,
If you send me an e-mail on callan@t89.co.uk i can supply full comprehensive plans for a BEC single single.
Or have a look at www.t89.co.uk
We even did a study on what it would look like with a 60's style body. Theres a picture in the CAD section of the gallery page:
http://www.t89.co.uk/gallery.html
Cheers Cal
Cal,
I've looked at your car with some interest in the past. I'm not sure your chassis would work for me, but there are plenty of components
that would probably suit.
My requirements are:
100mm ground clearance.
Approx 91@ wheelbase.
Approx 30L fuel capacity.
GSXR 1300 or ZX-14 powerplant.
I'd like to achieve a reclined seating position similar to early-mid 60's Lotus. Lotus 24/25/33 or Brabham BT7+ style bodywork. I've
been wanting to try a composite laminate body construction on buck, I figure I can keep the bodywork under 15lbs. I can build a 12' canoe that
weighs under 20lbs, so 15lbs for a suitably rigid body shouldn't be unrealistic.
I'm very interested in the possibility of using MX-5 running gear.
I'll send an email when I've got 30 mins free to think things through and we can figure out how much of your design might work.
Stew
No problem Stew, those are all changes that we have looked into before.