mcerd1
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 11:34 AM |
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Tin-tops :(
why does everything have to be so hard to fix/get at on modern tin-tops 
who thought it was a good idea to make so much of the car out of plastic and why is it so many bolts shear on focus's ?
its taken me the best part of 2 days just to get my gearbox out
(ok a 10 year old focus is stretching the definition of modern a bit but still)
Stuck at work now, so putting it back together will have to be tonights job 
I just hope I can remember how all the wirring goes back 
 
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[Edited on 30/5/2011 by mcerd1]
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 11:43 AM |
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if its anything like vauxhalls Id have whipped the whole engine out!
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big_wasa
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 11:43 AM |
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Think your self lucky you dont have to take the engine out aswell
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iank
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 11:59 AM |
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I realise the questions are rhetorical but:
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Originally posted by mcerd1
why does everything have to be so hard to fix/get at on modern tin-tops
Designed for easy assembly in the factory, not repair, combined with pressure from the main dealers to ensure the number of man hours to fix something
is 'profitable'
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who thought it was a good idea to make so much of the car out of plastic and why is it so many bolts shear on focus's ?
Cheap and cheaper.
HTH 
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zilspeed
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 12:05 PM |
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The Zilbus (Eurovan I Citroen Synergie) is an engine out job to replace the heater plugs.
Then once the engine's out, there's no guarantee that the plugs will actually come out of the head without wrecking the ehad.
It's a good job that the thing will fire with preheating down to about minus 10 degrees c.
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whitestu
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 12:20 PM |
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I agree - moden cars are a pain - I had quire a fre Citroen GSA's in the 80s and people used to complain about how hard they were to work on,
but they are totally simple by modern standards.
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 12:39 PM |
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If you had dropped the sub frame off it's wee easy to do
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 12:39 PM |
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You think the Focus box is bad try changing the spark plugs on a v6 Espace! Engine out to get at the rear plugs.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 12:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DRC INDY 7
If you had dropped the sub frame off it's wee easy to do
actually the subframe didn't really get in the way, although it would
have ment I wouldn't have needed to remove the rear mount - so its bolt wouldn't have sheared.....
dropping the box out was dead easy, getting to all the bits that needed to come off first wasn't so easy
the focus is the only 'modern' car I've ever owned and I'm getting fed up already
but I now know what my ideal car would be...
its a late 80's or early 90's hatch, completly rot free with carbs - any ideas ?
(if I could have re-shelled my old 106 I would have, it ticked all those boxes apart from the rust )
[Edited on 30/5/2011 by mcerd1]
[Edited on 30/5/2011 by mcerd1]
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Doctor Derek Doctors
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 01:04 PM |
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Its becuase you and everyone else only wants to pay £14,995 for your Focus and not £24,995
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iank
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 01:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by DRC INDY 7
If you had dropped the sub frame off it's wee easy to do
actually the subframe didn't really get in the way, although it would
have ment I wouldn't have needed to remove the rear mount - so its bolt wouldn't have sheared.....
dropping the box out was dead easy, getting to all the bits that needed to come off first wasn't so easy
the focus is the only 'modern' car I've ever owned and I'm getting fed up already
but I now know what my ideal car would be...
its a late 80's or early 90's hatch, completly rot free with carbs - any ideas ?
(if I could have re-shelled my old 106 I would have, it ticked all those boxes apart from the rust )
MK1, 2 VW Golf's don't tend to rust much, I think they injected wax. MK3's had galvanised panels.
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coozer
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 01:10 PM |
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Just remember that assembly in the plant is the reverse of what you've done. Transmission is mounted on the subframe off line then pushed up
from underneath.. takes the guys about 20 seconds to do.
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 01:18 PM |
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Now the 106 is an excellent car .... Easy to work on and never gave grief .
Perhaps you should change to golf easy to fix pre mk4 and loads of spares
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mcerd1
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 01:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
Now the 106 is an excellent car .... Easy to work on and never gave grief .
well by the time you got it it was 90% new
unfortunatly the rusty chassis isn't so easy to fix
btw the back brakes on my focus are almost as bad as the 106 - I have to adjust the things every 5k or they don't work properly and the car gets
all squirmy under breaking
[Edited on 30/5/2011 by mcerd1]
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 02:05 PM |
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You think it was hard work up the front end, JUST wait until you find that you need to replace one of the rear suspension arms.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 30/5/11 at 02:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jollygreengiant
You think it was hard work up the front end, JUST wait until you find that you need to replace one of the rear suspension arms.
I'm hoping they'll last till I'm shot of it....
but if they don't I've been told to get all new bolts before trying
[Edited on 30/5/2011 by mcerd1]
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