David Jenkins
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| posted on 4/11/18 at 10:18 AM |
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Originally posted by nero1701
7's are fairly small.....great aircon...
smartarse...  
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Slimy38
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| posted on 4/11/18 at 01:14 PM |
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Originally posted by David Jenkins
OK - lots of very good suggestions here. I now have a good list of cars to consider.
Now, how about the cars to avoid at all costs? Bad because of unreliability, high maintenance costs, and so on?
When we were looking it wasn't necessarily the type of car to avoid, more the severe shortage of small cars that were in decent condition. Low
miles, poor maintenance and parking panel damage meant we really struggled to find one.
Far too many cars had three years or more between services, due to the owners thinking a service should only be based on mileage not time. Tyres that
had been there since they were fitted at the factory, still legal but so cracked that I'd not want to be driving on them. I swear I lifted the
bonnet on a couple and the engine said 'please drive me properly, I'm strangled here'. Clutches that were bordering on failure after
a few thousand miles.
And unfortunately because of 'low mileage' a lot of these cars were massively overpriced. Why is low mileage considered so valuable?
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 4/11/18 at 05:58 PM |
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Fair comment.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 4/11/18 at 06:13 PM |
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At the moment we're considering a 2013 Kia Picanto 1.0 and a 2013 Hyundai i10 1.2 - both in good nick, and both with what I call 'medium
mileage' - not stupidly low, but well below 10k/year. I'm drifting towards the i10 myself, as I've driven one recently and was
quite content with the way it behaved.
I'm off for a couple of test drives tomorrow, hopefully.
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Simon
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| posted on 4/11/18 at 07:34 PM |
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We (me and brothers) got (well, paid the deposit) on a new Kia Picanto 2 in Dec 2015 and it's been fab. It's quite small but I find it
very comfy (being 6' and 18 stone). It's not going to set the world alight but that's not the point of it and with a 7 year warranty
will probably outlast her will to carry on driving (she's 80). Our eldest son has just been put on as a named driver having passed his test
three weeks ago and with Hasting Direct (tracked thingy) cost £1200 on insurance (she was paying £550 a year anyway!!!!)
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 5/11/18 at 07:13 AM |
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First thing I'd do is have a look at the crash tests on YouTube many small & popular cars do pathetic, I picked the Fiesta watching those.
The more modern versions are even better. Budget cars are great but dying in the process less so. Saying that I'd still not get my wife one for
running the kids about and she can just stick with the big Volvo.
I mind a crash outside my house, it was a new Fiat 500 which had run into the back of a turning car, seriously just looked a minor shunt but amazingly
the next thing the fire brigade are cutting the roof off! Seems even that little bash had pushed the steering wheel down on her trapping her legs in
the car, scary.
[Edited on 5/11/18 by Mr Whippy]
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/11/18 at 07:00 PM |
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AAAARGH! 
Sorry, needed to let that out.
Went to look at the Picanto today... first of all, the salesman didn't seem to be too bothered to get off his backside and sell me anything.
Then he said things that contradicted what another salesman had told us yesterday ("One owner. He's a regular customer. Traded in this
one to buy another" - total BS). Turns out it's had 2 owners, the service history doesn't bear too much scrutiny, and the car needed
a decent valet before trying to sell it (IMHO).
In the end, the whole thing just seemed too iffy and I walked away. As someone who had considered buying a Kia in the future, I shan't be
visiting that dealership again.
I really hate buying cars...
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 6/11/18 at 06:49 AM |
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Yeah I'd give that one a miss. You can do full checks on the cars MOT history through the DVLA. Anything dodgy I'd just walk away as there
are load of small cars to choose from and just pick the best you can afford.
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nick205
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| posted on 6/11/18 at 08:58 AM |
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Originally posted by GaryM
Toyota Aygo/Citroen C1/Peugeot 107 (all the same car). Just bought a 4 year old one for our daughter to learn in and have been very impressed.
A car hire company tried to give us a Peugeot 107 hire car before. Beware that they only have 2 seat belts on the rear seat so only carry 4 people
(including the driver). As a family of 5 (3kids) this simply didn't work for us!
Having made a point of booking a car for 5 people we refused the car and made them give us another one (Fiat Punto).
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 6/11/18 at 12:58 PM |
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three stars for a 2018 car...that's pathetic. Basically it's going to crush your legs in a crash...
Global NCAP: Kia Picanto Crash Test 2018. The Picanto achieved a three-star rating for adult occupant protection in the frontal crash test at 64km/h.
The vehicle structure was rated as stable while the footwell area was rated as unstable.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 6/11/18 at 04:05 PM |
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Strange - the 2013 version got 4-and-a-bit stars when I looked it up the other day. Unusual to go backwards in the ratings...
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