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Caught speeding :(
bi22le - 26/7/19 at 08:27 PM

I dont want sympathy, I know I did bad.

But what should I expect? 52 in a 40 in Essex.


sdh2903 - 26/7/19 at 08:32 PM

Band A. 3 points and 25-75% of weekly wage as a fine.


David Jenkins - 26/7/19 at 08:35 PM

First offence, or do you have a history of speeding?

If it's a one-off then you may get away with a speed awareness course - that's what my wife got when she was caught doing 36 in a 30 zone (just over the border in Suffolk). It'll cost you roughly the same as the speeding fine, but no points.


steve m - 26/7/19 at 09:06 PM

As David says, take the course if its offered, I did, £90for the course or £60 and 3 points fine

I actually enjoyed the course, I know you have to go in as a naughty boy, but I
honestly learnt some stuff, that I never new before!!


bi22le - 26/7/19 at 09:28 PM

Last time I was caught speeding was probably 8+ years ago. I did a speed awareness then and it was rubbish. I was the first person I knew that went on one and I have heard since that they are pretty good.

I'll take £90 and a speed awareness although insurance companies have cottened onto these now haven't they? You still need to disclose them, which means they will change me more for another 5 years.


mark chandler - 26/7/19 at 10:26 PM

Cannot see you getting offered a course @ 12mph over the limit, you get these for less than 5mph.

I'd budget £100, but then with the means testing that I know nothing about maybe more.


mccsp - 26/7/19 at 11:12 PM

https://www.evo.co.uk/news/18773/uk-speeding-fines-2019-what-are-the-latest-penalties-for-drivers

Depends on current earnings but if not offered a speed awareness course likely to be a bit more than £100

Speed awareness course was good when I did one last year. Take it if offered. Not obliged to disclose to insurance company unless they explicitly ask.


UncleFista - 27/7/19 at 02:05 AM

quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
<snip>You still need to disclose them, which means they will change me more for another 5 years.


You do, but there's no central database for them to request info from, yet, so it depends on how honest you're feeling.


mccsp - 27/7/19 at 06:50 AM

https://www.rias.co.uk/news-and-guides/tips-and-guides/do-i-have-to-declare-a-speed-awareness-course/

Worth a read.

Towards the end it suggests advised to tell insurance company.

But what it says about instructors advice is interesting as it is where my statement above came from, which would appear to be contrary to the advice in the article above.


loggyboy - 27/7/19 at 07:44 AM

What were details of offence? Camera, vascar, radar etc? Via NIP or face to face?


bi22le - 27/7/19 at 09:22 AM

Fixed camera, located at a traffic lights. I had always assumed it was for red light jumping only. I caught the orange with haste.

Mine just says "intention to Prosecute" at the top and not "Notice of intention to prosecute". Is there a difference?


Paul_Arion - 27/7/19 at 03:25 PM

I think you will hopefully just be within the threshold for the course - generally wouldn’t be offered to anyone at 10% +9mph over the limit so 53mph would appear to be where the line is drawn. Fingers crossed you’re offered the course


loggyboy - 28/7/19 at 08:54 AM

quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
Fixed camera, located at a traffic lights. I had always assumed it was for red light jumping only. I caught the orange with haste.

Mine just says "intention to Prosecute" at the top and not "Notice of intention to prosecute". Is there a difference?


Letter arrive within 14 days of offence?


jimhammer - 28/7/19 at 09:25 AM

Same offence in Essex 37 in a 30, to fast for course £100 and 3 points.


steve m - 28/7/19 at 11:43 AM

44 in a 30, static camera in Surrey

I got a speed awareness course, in Sussex

steve


CosKev3 - 28/7/19 at 01:18 PM

West Mercia and North Wales forces wouldn't offer you the course that far above the limit.


nick205 - 28/7/19 at 01:33 PM

I've heard before that not all police forces offer the speed awareness course, I've also heard that where offered the course only applies to the 30mph limit.

This may or may not be true of course!

I was caught speeding some years ago (in a 30mph area) and offered the course (Hampshire). I took the course and it was ok, it avoided getting points so seemed a good option for me. I don't know what current insurance obligations to declare this are, but at that time there was no obligation to declare so again it seemed a good option for me.

Keep us posted on what happens.


larchtree - 28/7/19 at 04:55 PM

Hi Guys

Just for info, I completed a driver awareness course about 2 weeks ago, have to say great instructors at Runcorn.

Caught on M62 in smart m/way, no screens, doing 85, the threshold was 86 - phew! And at least three years since the last one!
Very much my own fault!

Cheers
Dave


sdh2903 - 28/7/19 at 06:02 PM

Dont get caught speeding north of the border as the courses dont exist up here. Although the fines are not as big. Although the plods seem to be on a purge at the minute and are acting all Gestapo-like.

I got pulled over in the works van the other day by a copper going the other way who 'thought I was going too fast', nope all the Vans have trackers and I'm on the clock so no point. I have a lot of time for the guys and gals in blue doing a crappy job for crappy money, but theres really no need to act like a knob. A small minority I know (or hope)


nick205 - 29/7/19 at 11:50 AM

quote:
Originally posted by larchtree
Hi Guys

Just for info, I completed a driver awareness course about 2 weeks ago, have to say great instructors at Runcorn.

Caught on M62 in smart m/way, no screens, doing 85, the threshold was 86 - phew! And at least three years since the last one!
Very much my own fault!

Cheers
Dave



I stand corrected there on the 30mph limit only.


AlexXtreme - 30/7/19 at 07:37 AM

I was told in Wiltshire that they only run the courses if you are over the limit on the 30 and 40mph zones when I attended a speed awareness course. I think requirements varies from county to county.

In general I thought the course was really good and it makes a difference on who is running it. I friend attended a course at the same location and it was very poor.