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J666AYP

posted on 6/7/18 at 11:22 PM Reply With Quote
Rod/steering ends and ball joints

Gents,

Can anyone help me identify the ball joints/rod ends on the locost? getting some conflicting info on the usual interweb places.

I think it has 4 hole cortina lower ball joints and cortina steering rod ends. However the top joints have me stumped, apparently they are transit maxi joints? I cant find the correct thread size listed anywhere though. Anyone have a link/part number for the correct ones?

Can anyone confirm before I order the parts please?


Cheers,
Jay

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owelly

posted on 6/7/18 at 11:34 PM Reply With Quote
Have a look for Transit drag links.





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adithorp

posted on 7/7/18 at 12:41 PM Reply With Quote
Top will be Transit/Sherpa steering drag link (rh thread) end.
Track rod end will be MK2 Escort tre.
Bottom ball joint difficult to see on my phone but Maxi ball joint is commonly used.





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rusty nuts

posted on 7/7/18 at 04:06 PM Reply With Quote
Can't see the lower ball joints , a better photo might help? Austin Maxi ball joints have two bolt fixings , Cortina my 3 , 4 and 5 use four bolts IIRC .
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steve m

posted on 7/7/18 at 07:38 PM Reply With Quote
My ron champion locost setup is
Top = mk1 transit RHS track rod end, both sides
Bottom = maxi bottom swivel, both sides
Track rod end = Mk2 escort track rod end, both sides

BTW, your steering rack is about 100 mm to high, and needs to be lowered (imho)

Mine is like this



steve

[Edited on 7/7/18 by steve m]





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SteveWalker

posted on 7/7/18 at 10:52 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, that rack looks way too high, but your's looks a little low to me - I may be wrong, but I thought that the track rods should be parallel to the lower suspension arm/wishbone to avoid bump-steer.

[Edited on 7/7/18 by SteveWalker]

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J666AYP

posted on 7/7/18 at 11:18 PM Reply With Quote
Gents,

My bad... I should have mentioned that the car is sitting on a wheeled jig/frame so its sitting 9.5" above the ground with the suspension bottomed out. Thats why its on such a steep angle.

This is it lifted up to more of a likley position


And here are some better pics of the joints...







Thanks for the input gents

Jay

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drt

posted on 8/7/18 at 10:27 AM Reply With Quote


In 2D it's should be like this

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Angel Acevedo

posted on 8/7/18 at 11:00 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by drt


In 2D it's should be like this


Just to add to this...
Lines must be projected through pivot points, not A-Arms and or steering rod.
Sometimes they are the same, but sometimes there is a small offset.
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steve m

posted on 8/7/18 at 11:16 AM Reply With Quote
Top ball joint on ebay is the following

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOCOST-WESTFIELD-TOP-BALL-JOINT-TRANSIT-DRAG-LINK-END/360477993376?hash=item53ee29a9a0:g:0p0AAOSwSypY8hOq

Bottom ball joint on Kitcar is the following

http://www.kitcarparts-scotland.co.uk/maxi-type-ball-joint/


Track rod ends are mk2 escort (if the rack is an escort one ?)
But I do know there are two types, one is metric, the other imperial,

as for my suspension setup, does it look about right, as its been like that for 19 years, and seems ok

steve





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drt

posted on 8/7/18 at 11:50 AM Reply With Quote
Thought that was a given
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MikeRJ

posted on 8/7/18 at 10:17 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve m
Bottom ball joint on Kitcar is the following

http://www.kitcarparts-scotland.co.uk/maxi-type-ball-joint/



Oddly it's described as a Maxi balljoint on that website, but it's actually a Cortina balljoint.

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Camber Dave

posted on 9/7/18 at 12:54 PM Reply With Quote
Top BalL joint is often Transit draglink as reported Quintin Hazel QD 1117 RHT It is M18 x 1.5

Picture shows M20 probably x 1.5m Pitch
This is also Transit BUT Tie Rod End Quintin Hazel no QR 1408RHT

Ebay Or a good motor factor can cross-refer the Q H no's

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J666AYP

posted on 10/7/18 at 12:26 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the info gents, much appreciated.

Think I have sorted the steering rack angle now its sitting on wheels.


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rusty nuts

posted on 10/7/18 at 04:52 PM Reply With Quote
It might be a good idea to measure the top ball joint thread diameter and pitch? I suspect it could be 18mm X1.5mm pitch
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