Dangle_kt
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 05:46 PM |
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Roll Cage - REALLY needed????
Has anyone ever rolled a Locost?
They are pretty dam low and wide - if you have rolled one - what speed and what were the circumstances?
just interested
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 05:51 PM |
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Yeah
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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welderman
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 05:52 PM |
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did he survive??????
thats bad
Thank's, Joe 
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http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=172301
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arrybradbury
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 05:58 PM |
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I think the answer to the OP's question is yes ;-)
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blakep82
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 05:58 PM |
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probably not really needed on the road, but would you really want to wait til something happens to find out?
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locoR1
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 06:02 PM |
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Hope he was ok!!!!!!!!
After seeing that I've just moved a Roll Cage up to second on my list of winter upgrades 
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snapper
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 06:03 PM |
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As we are all enthusiastic drivers a roll bar is worth having and in my opinion the bar adds to the look of the car.
Some early Lotus sevens and the early robin hoods were offered with the roll bar as an option but just look if something is missing
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Stott
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 06:09 PM |
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It's not the low and wide bit that we need to take into consideration, everyone I know who's rolled a car has either gone up / hit a bank
(not the kind with money in) or spun and hit a kerb, this could happen to anyone in any car I guess, I'm making a big big cage, but that's
partly to strengthen the rear of my car as at the moment it's held on with dust, cobwebs and luck.....
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iank
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 06:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by welderman
did he survive??????
thats bad
I believe he only broke an arm. Which is effectively nothing after an off of that magnitude.
More discussion about cages/that crash/binbags for condoms (!) in this thread http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=56410
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 06:21 PM |
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WOW!
Scary stuff!
I was interested - I have a roll cage, but was just curious.
here is mine, its pretty substantial and means I have to climb in through the top! like dukes of hazard but with much less style or grace. 
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Simon
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 07:19 PM |
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I only have a hoop and backstays at the mo, and did have need (when I was adding the b/stays) to drive without protection. It felt like riding an m/c
in t shirt and shorts
I will be having a front hoop and front rear connection soonish, mapbe with side impact protection and a removable screen (with integrated wiper )
ATB
Simon
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Hellfire
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 07:38 PM |
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If you feel the need to have a full roll cage, then at least get it manufactured to conform with MSA regs. Anything less could potentially be more
life threatening in an accident than having a single roll bar.
Phil
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Werner Van Loock
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 08:18 PM |
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not a 7, but shows well why roll bars are needed
mini
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akumabito
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 08:35 PM |
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How do double hoops fare in a crash? I always found 'm better looking on road-going Locosts than the big bars/full cages.
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blakep82
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 08:48 PM |
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think i've got the roll cage fairly well covered
 
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 08:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
think i've got the roll cage fairly well covered
That's a roll cage with bits of chassis attached!
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 08:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
As we are all enthusiastic drivers a roll bar is worth having and in my opinion the bar adds to the look of the car.
Some early Lotus sevens and the early robin hoods were offered with the roll bar as an option but just look if something is missing
That will be the heads then!
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 24/9/07 at 09:09 PM |
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I've told this story before, but...
One of my son's friends had a Caterham Superlight with a full cage. He was going quite fast on wet roads when he came across an unexpected sharp
bend. He slid across the road, hit the opposite kerb with both wheels and flipped the car at some speed. He walked away with only his pride hurt.
As a follow-up, Caterham straightened up the car for a wad of money, and when they gave it back they told him that all the shocks had been wound up to
max, and that they'de re-set them to sensible damping settings! That was a cock-up by the previous owner, and this lad was not techie enough
to realise.
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brynhamlet
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| posted on 25/9/07 at 05:52 AM |
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All I can say is the driver of that Caterham was lucky, but it's a testiment to the strength and safety of the cage.
For road use I would not entertain anything less than what my car has got i.e. braced roll bar. Landing on my head in the unlikely event I did roll
it, without a bar does not bear thinking about.
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snoopy
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| posted on 25/9/07 at 07:07 AM |
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standerd roll bar rivnutted on driver walked away unhurt
 
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 25/9/07 at 08:42 AM |
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I remeber long discussions about that MK crash a few years back, and don't want to start them again, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - no one RIVNUT
your roll bar on! Nothing could be further from good engineering.
I can only imagine the car above did a 'pure' roll: I'm sure with any sliding the bar would have ripped straight off.
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James
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| posted on 25/9/07 at 09:34 AM |
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I couldn't find it on Youtube, but there's a video of a guy barrel rolling a 750mc Locost through the air. Think it was Castle Coombe a
couple of years ago.
Pretty sure he walked away.
As for rivnuts..... agree wholeheartedly with Matt!
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procomp
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| posted on 25/9/07 at 01:18 PM |
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Hi locost only been to castle coombe once. And that was this year although one was on its roof. I think it was the caterham incident James is
reffering to.
Also if thinking of having a cage done to comply with MSA/FIA it will be worth researching the blue book as some people who are supplying cages are
obviously not aware of the changes made a few years ago. So some cages supplied over the last few years do not comply with this criteria.
cheers matt
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