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thunderace

posted on 15/10/12 at 04:26 PM Reply With Quote
negative pressure help

When I say negative pressure, there is enough vacuum in the crankcase to make it difficult to remove the oil fill cap while the engine is idling (if i remove the dip stick it sucks like a hover),the car has smoke or steam coming out the exhaust ,i have just fitted the engine over the weekend and its a 2002 polo engine anyone any idear what the problem may be ? im going to do a compretion test tomorrow to see if its a blown head gasket but there is no water in the oil and i dont think it loseing any water
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Ben_Copeland

posted on 15/10/12 at 04:57 PM Reply With Quote
Could be a blocked breather...

I thought blown gaskets made positive pressure not negative





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T66

posted on 15/10/12 at 05:06 PM Reply With Quote
When the Land Rover TD4 crankcase gauze filter blocked it created positive crank pressure and blew oil past the crankshaft seal.


Once cleaned and replaced with the BMW cyclone filter, it stopped dripping and all returned to normal.




Take the cap off and run the engine, and put your hand over the hole, suck or blow as they say ?






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rusty nuts

posted on 15/10/12 at 05:09 PM Reply With Quote
Blocked breather would cause positive pressure . The thing I can think of is a connection to the inlet manifold causing crankcase vacuum. Doubt if it is due to low compression
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daviep

posted on 15/10/12 at 05:41 PM Reply With Quote
Sounds like PCV valve problem, I'm sure google will get you pictures and symptoms.

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coyoteboy

posted on 15/10/12 at 08:05 PM Reply With Quote
Many cars run an electronically (or sometimes pneumatically) switched crankcase vent straight to the plenum. If your valving has failed it'll suck most of its air through the crankcase. This is a problem on a number of levels.
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GOJO

posted on 15/10/12 at 09:06 PM Reply With Quote
Probably the diaphram in the oil breather,letting it suck crank gases instead of from air filter blank the manifold connection and vent the breather to a catch tank
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thunderace

posted on 16/10/12 at 11:44 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GOJO
Probably the diaphram in the oil breather,letting it suck crank gases instead of from air filter blank the manifold connection and vent the breather to a catch tank


diaphram in the oil breather is fine it sucks from the breather pipe also

i have googled it and found nothing

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thunderace

posted on 16/10/12 at 03:30 PM Reply With Quote
done a compretion test and all was ok but all plugs were wet with oil (but i worked out the the oil was coming from the rocker breather into the throttle body so thats no suprize)
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daviep

posted on 16/10/12 at 03:47 PM Reply With Quote
Which engine?





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thunderace

posted on 16/10/12 at 04:23 PM Reply With Quote
sorry its a 1L MPI engine
im going to remove all vacume hoses and flush them


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thunderace

posted on 18/10/12 at 12:09 PM Reply With Quote
video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7nksEmK3EY&feature=g-upl

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daviep

posted on 18/10/12 at 01:34 PM Reply With Quote
The way the idle speed changes would suggest that it's definately linked to the inlet. Not much help sorry

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froggy

posted on 18/10/12 at 03:28 PM Reply With Quote
Older systems had a very small pipe to let any positive pressure into the inlet but later cars have a much larger flow rate , lots of bm,s do a similar thing . Dirty breathers are common on these so clean them out and see how it drives . The idle valve compensates for the change in vac when you open the filler and it still idles so its not a major issue .





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