gavin174
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| posted on 28/9/13 at 03:29 PM |
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Riding a 125cc Scooter
Afternoon All
I passed my car test in 1990 and have AM and A 79(tri)
does this entitle me to ride a 125cc scooter.
tried looking it up on the internet but going round in circles
http://www.essexkitcarclub.com
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jps
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| posted on 28/9/13 at 04:52 PM |
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without checking, I believe the 'old' entitlements allowed someone with a fulll driving licence to ride a moped (sub 50cc) without.doing
cbt. I dont think.it.covered up to 125cc
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Peteff
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| posted on 28/9/13 at 04:57 PM |
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You should be covered on your car license to ride a moped up to 50cc or provisionally covered to ride a motorcycle up to 125cc. You will need to take
a CBT which will cover you for 2 years. If your license does not include the motorcycle you can send off for a new one which will include it.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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zetec
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| posted on 28/9/13 at 05:12 PM |
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The licence needed to ride different bikes has just changed. Do a CBT and you can ride, with "L" plates for 2 year, then you have either
got to have passed your test or do another CBT and so on. Downside now is that if you do a test on a 125 you can only ride a 125 and need to do
another test for either of the bigger sizes of bikes. In the past you could pass on a 125 and then move onto a bigger bike with just a time limit
before getting a more powerful bike, no more testing required. Now you need to take a course before taking a test for a bigger bike even if you have
passed on a 125...in a way it is good as you will get some proper training, but cost and hassle.
" I only registered to look at the pictures, now I'm stuck with this username for the rest of my life!"
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 28/9/13 at 05:31 PM |
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As a biker I'd really recommend you do at least a CBT even if not required to, you get little in the way of second chances learning to ride a
bike on the roads
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gavin174
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| posted on 28/9/13 at 05:37 PM |
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I understand what you are saying about it being a good idea...
but what I want to know is..
If I have class A on my licence, can I ride a 125cc scooter
http://www.essexkitcarclub.com
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 28/9/13 at 05:52 PM |
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the fact that you say you want to ride a 125cc scooter (moped) means it is infact not a moped but a motor bike that looks like a moped hence you will
have to apply for a provisional bike licence and do a CBT before riding it with L plates. If you look right at the bottom of the page it says that you
could ride a 50cc moped without L plates and not need to take the CBT but they recommend you do.
From the DVLA site -
2. Motorcycle licence requirements
If you have a provisional motorcycle licence, you MUST satisfactorily complete a Compulsory Basic Training (CBT) course. You can then ride a
motorcycle up to 125 cc with a power output not exceeding 11 kW on the public road, with L plates (in Wales either D plates, L plates or both can be
used), for up to two years. Under direct access you can practise on a motorcycle that exceeds 125 cc provided that:
you meet the minimum age for the category concerned
you’re accompanied at all times by a qualified approved trainer, who is on another motorcycle and in radio contact with you
fluorescent or reflective safety clothing is worn during supervision
red L plates (D plates in Wales) are fitted and provisional licence restrictions followed.
To obtain your full motorcycle licence you MUST pass a motorcycle theory test and then a practical test.
Law MV(DL)R regs 16 & 68
A1 motorcycle licence: At age 17 or over, you take a test on a motorcycle without sidecar of between 120 and 125 cc. If you pass you may ride a
motorcycle up to 125 cc with power output up to 11 kW, or a motor tricycle with power not exceeding 15 kW.
A2 motorcycle licence: At age 19 or over, you take a test on a motorcycle without sidecar of at least 395 cc with a power output of at least 25 kW but
not exceeding 35 kW. If you pass, you may ride any motorcycle not exceeding 35 kW and with a power to weight ratio not exceeding 0.2 kW/kg.
Full A motorcycle licence: Test taken on a motorcycle without sidecar, of at least 595 cc and an engine power of at least 40 kW. This gives you full
access to all motorcycles and motor tricycles. You obtain a category A licence by taking progressive access from age 21, or under the direct access
scheme from age 24.
Category A under progressive access: You can take a category A practical test at age 21 if you already have an A2 licence that you’ve held for a
minimum of two years. You don’t need to take another theory test or hold a CBT certificate.
Category A under direct access: This is for riders aged 24 or over. To obtain a category A licence you must
successfully complete a CBT course
pass the motorcycle theory test
pass the practical motorcycle test.
Passing the practical test on a motorcycle of at least 40 kW (53.6bhp) gives immediate access to all sizes of motorcycle.
You MUST NOT carry a pillion passenger or pull a trailer until you have passed your test. Also see Rule 253 covering vehicles prohibited from
motorways.
Law MV(DL)R reg 16
Moped licence requirements
A moped MUST have an engine capacity not exceeding 50 cc, not weigh more than 250kg and be designed to have a maximum speed not exceeding 28mph (45
km/h). Before June 2003 a licence allowed the riding of mopeds up to 50km/h.
To ride a moped, learners MUST
be 16 or over
have a provisional moped licence
complete CBT training.
You MUST first pass the theory test for motorcycles and then the moped practical test to obtain your full moped licence. If you passed your car
driving test before 1 February 2001 you are qualified to ride a moped without L plates (and/or D plates in Wales), although it is recommended that you
complete CBT before riding on the road. If you passed your car driving test after this date you MUST complete CBT before riding a moped on the road.
Laws RTA 1988 sects 97(e) & 101 & MV(DL)R regs 38(4)
[Edited on 28/9/13 by Mr Whippy]
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