02GF74
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 02:47 PM |
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who will build the first 6x6 locost?
inspiriation here
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benji106
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 02:52 PM |
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what are the benefits of having 6 wheels over 4??
-Everything in excess-
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alanr
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 03:02 PM |
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two more tyres to buy !!!!!!!!!!!
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balidey
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 03:08 PM |
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I quite like this....
http://www.thejoyofcx.co.uk/main.php
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02GF74
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 03:11 PM |
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hmmm, same grip but less air resistance due to smaller frontal area?? as seen on tyrell p43. Wasn't it banned? Anywoine know reason why?
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This famous car was the handiwork of Tyrrell's chief designer Derek Gardner. It's most striking feature of course was the use of
four 10 in. wheels instead of the regular two. The front-end layout was intended to "... minimize induced drag by reducing lift at the front and
to turn that gain into the ability to enter and leave corners faster". The use of four small disc brakes required a special triple
master-cylinder system, each feeding the brakes on one of the three axles. This was necessary as adjustments were required to control locking at the
four front wheels. If the two front wheels locked first, then the effective wheelbase of the car was shortened and if the second set of front wheels
locked first this resulted in the effective wheelbase being lengthened. The size of the front tires put special stress on the cross-ply tires Goodyear
supplied. Had radial-ply Michelin tires been available to the team the story might have been different. Unfortunatly Goodyear's tire
development program did not have the capacity to properly support the special 10 in. tires used by the P34.
The high point for what was known as Project 34 came at the Swedish Grand Prix in 1976 where Jody Scheckter came in first followed by his teammate
Depailler in second. After two seasons and the departure of Derek Gardner the experiment was abandoned.
[Edited on 1/12/06 by 02GF74]
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balidey
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 03:14 PM |
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Don't think the Tyrell was ever banned, but there was too much weight and complexity, so the negatives outweighed the positives. Still look good
though.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 03:54 PM |
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Then there is always the other... the illusive 6 wheeler ferrari!
Also the 6 Wheeler Williams -
Image deleted by owner
[Edited on 1-12-06 by Hellfire]
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iank
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 04:02 PM |
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Looks weird from the drivers seat - youtube had everything apparently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GewFbY0zz8
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ned
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 04:18 PM |
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Saw that at Frank's museum at the williams f1 conference centre, from the video they played I seem to recall it was banned or the regs changed
within a year of it being properly developed.
that's some transaxle!
[Edited on 1/12/06 by ned]
 
Rescued attachment IMG_1522b.jpg
beware, I've got yellow skin
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NS Dev
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 04:25 PM |
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Already done it!!!
Got no pics though but me and a mate built a 6wd 6wheel steer turbodiesel offroader for use on peat bog in northumberland.
It used a longitudinal FWD VW Passat Turbodiesel turned 90degrees, with the driveshafts connected to lada Niva transfer boxes, plus a homemade drop
box using morse chain at the rear. The chassis was ladder frame/spaceframe mixture and used 3 sets of lada Niva double wishbone front IRS and alloy
diffs from the same.
Top speed 30 mph, but could drive at silly slow speeds for getting up mad hills, you needed to be strapped in tight it would go up stuff you could
never walk up!!!!
Used power assist front steering with selectable hydrostatic slaved steering on the two rear wheel pairs. You locked it out for the road and then
could have all 4 rears turn the same as the fronts for keeping it straight on big sideslopes, or opposite to the front for tight turns, or just steer
the front and very rear, or anything else you fancied, selected on 2 mech lockouts and 2 valves.
The engine was transverse behind the seats and took up very little space as it was originally longitudinal fwd so quite long and thin.
It had selectable diff locks on every axle and between every axle too, so it was unstoppable in mud.
It could literally drive over peat bog that you could not stand on, I am only just under 11 stone and I sank over the top of my boots, but the machine
barely left a mark.
It was 200kg lighter than a landrover 90, and could go at 25mph over ditches that stopped the landy dead!!!
All built from scrap over 1 winter!!
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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Guinness
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 04:27 PM |
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Isn't it weird the split between those who can add an extra axle at the back and those who can do it at the front.
I can only think of three that did it the hard way (front), the Panther thing, the Tyrell and FAB1 (although I'm not sure the last one
counts).
Mike
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MikeR
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 04:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
Already done it!!!
Why am i not surprised!!!!!!!!
Are you sure you've not on your second life or something, you've done more than most people 3 times your age.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 04:58 PM |
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It probably seems that way sometimes, but then I speak to some people way younger than me who have done waaayyyyy more!!!
A fella rang me up from the grasstrack forum the other day to chat about the class 7, his gf is a demontfort uni and he's coming down next
year.
He's a fair bit younger and has built a load of class sevens and other grassers and now does it on a semi pro basis!!!
My problem (as for many I suppose! ) is not enough time in the bloody day to get stuff done.
Bath's running right now then I'm off out, but hopefully a car-ing weekend this weekend, but bloody sierra rear lights have packed in so
got to sort that first dammit!
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 06:04 PM |
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6 wheel drive...pah,my new toy has 8 wheel drive and a 16 litre V12 so there!
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 1/12/06 at 07:51 PM |
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was once the proud owner of this squad........
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oto6
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| posted on 3/12/06 at 12:26 PM |
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Good choice !
oto6
http://www.oto6.free.fr
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