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sebastiaan

posted on 28/6/10 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
Have I killed it? *UPDATE - Yes, very probably -

Hi,

Yesterday evening my type 9 gearbox started making a fairly hefty grinding noise in fith, but only at full throttle between 2000 and 2500 RPM. Got home and checked all the chassis panelling for tightness but found nothing. Anyone got a clue what's going on?

TBH, i'm quite surprised it lasted as long as it did; it's a 20 quid box that I lopped in 5 years ago ;-)

[Edited on 30/6/10 by sebastiaan]

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omega0684

posted on 28/6/10 at 07:50 PM Reply With Quote
there cheap enough, chuck it and buy another





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Paul TigerB6

posted on 28/6/10 at 07:53 PM Reply With Quote
Are you sure its the gearbox and not the clutch??
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jossey

posted on 28/6/10 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
planet gears maybe?
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sebastiaan

posted on 28/6/10 at 08:05 PM Reply With Quote
If its the clutch it should do it in all gears; it's only in fifth that the problem becomes obvious.

Jossey, what do you mean with planet gears?

I'll do some more checks, but it looks like engine-out time :-(

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 28/6/10 at 08:08 PM Reply With Quote
Have you checked the oil level in the box??? Mine did the same in 2nd and it was low of oil





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sebastiaan

posted on 28/6/10 at 08:12 PM Reply With Quote
Dunno... As said, it was fitted 5 years ago and filled. There isn't any oil on the garage floor, but I'll check (and maybe refill) anyway
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Litemoth

posted on 28/6/10 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
If it's grinding it'll be too late to put oil in it. Bearings are shot probably. Not worth mucking around servicing it - just bung a new box in.

Maybe worth checking the prop - they can do funny things just before they expire.

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 28/6/10 at 10:36 PM Reply With Quote
Spc advertise type 9s for 200 quid with the extra long 1st gear stuck in....pretty good value
01527 894232






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sebastiaan

posted on 30/6/10 at 06:14 PM Reply With Quote
Well, I went for another short drive today to see if the box was also noisy from cold. Turns out it is. Took the shortest route home and took the lid off the box and did some simple checks:

1) Oil level is OK
2) Had a rummage around the bottom of the box with a magnet. It came back up with some very small filings attached to it, but nothing to be really concerned about
3) Got out the 500W halogen spotlight and had a good look round the cogs. All seems fine at first sight.

So, that's about what I think I can do without taking the box out. My conclusion at this point is that it's probably knackered. I think I'm going to try and beg/borrow/buy a second hand box (remember, I'm east of ye Olde Canal in the Netherlands, and type 9 boxes don't exactly grow on trees over here) to get me through the summer and rebuild my own box this winter when it is engine-out time anyway for some more upgrades.

In short: Yes, I've killed it

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Dave Ashurst

posted on 30/6/10 at 06:18 PM Reply With Quote
I'm driving to Utrecht on Sunday.
If you can source one in UK I'll bring it over for you.

best
Dave

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sebastiaan

posted on 30/6/10 at 06:19 PM Reply With Quote
Just had a look at their website and 200 quid just buys the parts to modify a box to a long 1st; which puts them at around the same cost as other companies offering this.

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Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
Spc advertise type 9s for 200 quid with the extra long 1st gear stuck in....pretty good value
01527 894232

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sebastiaan

posted on 30/6/10 at 06:22 PM Reply With Quote
WOW! Locostbuilders strikes again!. Thanks for offering this, Dave. I'll try and see what I can arrange. Utrecht is just a 35min drive for me, so that would be perfect!

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Ashurst
I'm driving to Utrecht on Sunday.
If you can source one in UK I'll bring it over for you.

best
Dave

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Dave Ashurst

posted on 30/6/10 at 06:32 PM Reply With Quote
No rush, I travel every week, driving every other week (in the locost through the summer).

So plenty of opportunity - but I guess you want it soon...

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sebastiaan

posted on 6/7/10 at 06:01 PM Reply With Quote
AAAAARGH!!! BURN, YOU F*(#@%$# CAR!

Right, I've just finished putting the "new" box in, got the car driveable and went out for a testdrive. All's well and good, until I select fifth and give it some. Guess what? Yep, the noise is still there between 2000 and 2500 RPM, just like before.

So the box wasn't shagged at all (at least I have a spare now, so it'll never break )

What else could it be? Diff? (why would that only be noisy in 5th at a certain RPM range? Some form of vibration?) Engine? (wouldn't know what that would be to only happen in 5th though...) Something else? Beats me.

I think I'm going to put the car away for a few days and revisit the problem after I've cooled down a bit.

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MikeR

posted on 6/7/10 at 07:11 PM Reply With Quote
could it be the gear lever?

Either rubbing on the transmission tunnel OR the westfield style extension (i'm guessing you have one) rubbing on the prop shaft?

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