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Author: Subject: TT V8 or Bike engine?
rallyslag

posted on 13/9/02 at 05:21 PM Reply With Quote
TT V8 or Bike engine?

What do you people sugest for my locost

a high powered Twin turbo V8 or some form of bike engine?

my driving style will be somwhere along the lines of foot to the floor

i plan on using it for ragging around B roads and occasional track days





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Jon Ison

posted on 13/9/02 at 05:30 PM Reply With Quote
no comment, other than what did that add used to say.... ???


oh i remember......."think bike"






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chrisg

posted on 13/9/02 at 05:41 PM Reply With Quote
That was an unexpected response from Mr Ison

Cheers

Chris

(I'd have the V8 BTW)





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Jon Ison

posted on 13/9/02 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
twin bike then.........,

i want a MKGT1 anyways.......






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rallyslag

posted on 13/9/02 at 05:46 PM Reply With Quote
well i think the torquey V8 would give some nice arse out action

but id imagine due to the weight of the bike engine it would be slightly quicker off the mark?

at the moment i think the TT V8 looks more attractive





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Simon

posted on 13/9/02 at 11:00 PM Reply With Quote
You are going to have to do some thinking about weight distribution (RV8 approx same weight as Pinto then turbos and ancilliaries), cooling (imagine getting turbo's glowing - your feet will roast nicely), probably need massive radiator, and oil cooler, intercooler etc.

hicost has Cossy lump in his - suggest you look at space under bonnet. Believe his car weighs in at 700+ kg (apologies h if I'm wrong).

I'd suggest Turbo'd bike engine as you obviously have quite a budget!! Hayabusa can manage over 400 bhp when turbo'd. Very light - might be able to keep weight of car to 500kgs.

My thoughts anyway!!

ATB

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johnston

posted on 14/9/02 at 07:44 AM Reply With Quote
yeah turbo'd busa engine look in last months ccc with the dax for the power figures


is locodude sick??????? no mention of stickin to a x flow yet!!!!!!!!!






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chrisg

posted on 14/9/02 at 10:02 AM Reply With Quote
No computer in his tent!!!

He's at Donnington

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Chris





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Jon Ison

posted on 14/9/02 at 12:59 PM Reply With Quote
no but he's gotta pur up wi my snorin....off now....ceya tomorrow Mr G.....






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rallyslag

posted on 14/9/02 at 08:36 PM Reply With Quote
well its not that i have lots of money
its that i spend all the money i have on cars

somtimes i even have money left over for food

i was going to make the locost chassis a bit wider based on the 422? chassis?

the V8 would seem cheaper tho due to the abundance of parts for it and less fragile than the bike engines seem

its not just bhp i want but plenty of torque too

as for cooling ill prolly just have to pinch some intake scoops from a fighter jet or somthing simililar





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Jon Ison

posted on 15/9/02 at 05:21 PM Reply With Quote
think if you'd have been at donnington today then you may have changed your mind......with a few exceptions BECS was on top form.....

Fragile.....






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Macca

posted on 15/9/02 at 05:38 PM Reply With Quote
And the exceptions were?
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johnston

posted on 15/9/02 at 05:44 PM Reply With Quote
the ones that cant handle the stress

nothin lie a big heavy car engine for reliablity by any chance






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Jon Ison

posted on 15/9/02 at 06:03 PM Reply With Quote
Exceptions,,,,,,Jame's and his 400hp fire breathing cosworth, (thnx for the ride james) whatever was in the back of the ultima.... can't think of too much else,

the only ones to throw there guts onto the track came from CEC's i'm afraid, this fragile thing makes me giggle....

yeah they'v less tourqe, non a this, can't do that, but iv'e driven mine today with the foot firmly planted to the floor for what must be 50+ laps of donnington at speeds well over the ton, most two up, (including chrisg, lite he is not) and all she does is sit there ticking over crying More, More More, driven like for like the BEC may be a lot o things but fragile it aint....






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johnston

posted on 15/9/02 at 06:06 PM Reply With Quote
hoew much is a blade engine anyway??






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Jon Ison

posted on 15/9/02 at 06:13 PM Reply With Quote
legal ones from £700 up.....dont forget you get multi plate clutch, 6 speed sequentional box, four flatside carbs, oh and it all weighs bugger all for free.......

no engine numbers, don't buy it.....






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interestedparty

posted on 15/9/02 at 06:41 PM Reply With Quote
For a long time I have been wary, to say the least, about bike engines in cars. I've got to admit, though, that cost for cost, weight for weight and bhp for bhp they are the ideal choice for a light car such as a Locost.
People complain that they have little torque, but what they mean is not much torque at low rpm.

John

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rallyslag

posted on 15/9/02 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
hmmm decisions decisions
i see where your coming from tho with the locost being so light n all

gonna have to give this a long hard think
altho it might take so long to decide that i might aswell just build one of each





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locodude

posted on 15/9/02 at 08:09 PM Reply With Quote
I'm Back!
Give me an all steel, big valve, lumpy cammed, throttle boddied, omex ignited x-flow snorter any day! (tongue planted firmly in cheek!) Seriously tho' only a Lottery win away!
Chris PTM

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rallyslag

posted on 15/9/02 at 08:31 PM Reply With Quote
well i do have a nice brand new 16v RS2000 engine sitting here but thats going my escort i think
i think for the pure fun factor ill go with V8 in the locost





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paulbeyer

posted on 15/9/02 at 09:14 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
no but he's gotta pur up wi my snorin....off now....ceya tomorrow Mr G.....


As it happened Jon, snoring was the least of PTM's problems. You had us in stitches trying to turn PTM's tent into a hot air balloon. (Blame it on the beer not my BBQ prowess).

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rallyslag

posted on 15/9/02 at 09:18 PM Reply With Quote
lol i am real
i just have a habit of thinking out loud





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dashin_dave

posted on 17/9/02 at 02:54 AM Reply With Quote
with regards to the v8 idea, if your going to go to bugger around with fitting one, which looks potentially painful (not that i'd know, havnt got that far yet), and aint fitting one) you could simplify the plan quite a bit by using a supercharger. only have to source one and only have to plumb one lot of air through an intercooler and into a plenum... or... how entertainingly silly would an old roots GM6-71 look sticking out the bonnet of a locost....
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rallyslag

posted on 19/9/02 at 08:13 PM Reply With Quote
ok iv been reading around a lot and i think ill have to make a busa blade

they go like poo off a shovel

i think once iv built that maybye i can start on a V8/V10 somthing or another





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Macca

posted on 19/9/02 at 08:24 PM Reply With Quote
ok iv been reading around a lot and i think ill have to make a busa blade

So thats two engines from two different bikes and two different capacities?

Sounds like a doddle!
Col

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