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Author: Subject: St170 fuel injection on a budget project.
big_wasa

posted on 13/8/13 at 07:11 PM Reply With Quote
Erm, I am sure I can sort some thing out.

A how to write up is a fare bit of work just for one or two.

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Lingy

posted on 24/3/14 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
So can you do us a loom mate?
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Case_Sensitive

posted on 6/5/16 at 10:55 AM Reply With Quote
This thread is long since zombied, but, inspired by Big_wasa, I'm doing a full strip of my ST170 loom, and rebuild it 'lighter'.
I was fortunate enough to start from a full MOT'd car, so I shouldn't be missing anything. I did sell the console with the clock and hence my immobiliser-armed LED, but that should be a 50c replacement.
All Ford interconnects (unions that join wire to another wire, or go through bulkheads etc) have been cut out, leaving only connector to connector links).
I'm doing up a big spreadsheet of every connector I need (I'll caveat this; I'mbuilding a MEV Rocket, so no doors, alarm, AC, power steering etc), what colour the stock wires are, and what pin on what connector/fuse/relay they go to. There's a tab for the Fuses and relays too.
Initially I'm doing track-only, so v1 won't have lights, horn etc.
Should be finished the theory part in about a week or two, and I've wired up about 20% of the connectors for real in the garage. Probably a couple of months till turn over, it's a one-day-a-weekend project.

Absolutely wouldn't be possible (for me) without the Ford wiring diagram, and I use the connector and component references from it throughout. Probably going to need it to use my guide.




[Edited on 6/5/16 by Case_Sensitive]

[Edited on 6/5/16 by Case_Sensitive]





http://mevowners.proboards.com/thread/3946/rocket-st159

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Case_Sensitive

posted on 18/5/16 at 11:44 AM Reply With Quote
Progress so far. Again, this is for an ST170 engined kit-car, and presumes you have the original wiring loom, or want to use the same colours.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-1teQkzjga4dTdBMVN4ZXRuNjg/view?usp=sharing





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big_wasa

posted on 18/5/16 at 02:50 PM Reply With Quote
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=190440
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Case_Sensitive

posted on 18/5/16 at 04:14 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=190440


Yep, this thread is invaluable, and I was inspired by the video of yours mounted in a wooden crate; I made one for my own lump, which has been converted into a welding table since the engine/gb were dropped into my Rocket.
There are a few bits I'm doing differently, some of the connector designations are for the standard Zetec rather than the ST170-specific ones and a couple of things your first post leaves out that I'd include (like the VVT, Crankshaft pos.). If I can make it look alright, I'll do diagrams of some circuits.





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big_wasa

posted on 18/5/16 at 04:30 PM Reply With Quote
More information the better. Each one I do I get the info over a little better.( not my strong point) See the Zetec SE.

My next one is for a mid engine.

Coming soon Focus rs managed turbo Zetec.


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ttbiker

posted on 18/5/16 at 04:47 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Wassa, I just recently got my ST170 MGB up and running it should be on the road in the next couple of weeks, I'll post some pics up when I get chance..
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Case_Sensitive

posted on 18/5/16 at 04:57 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
More information the better. Each one I do I get the info over a little better.( not my strong point) See the Zetec SE.

My next one is for a mid engine.

Coming soon Focus rs managed turbo Zetec.




Brilliant! Is that a fuel tank or N2O?

My heart will likely ultimately take me back to aFord Racing Puma, and the Sigma / Zetec SE





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big_wasa

posted on 18/5/16 at 06:51 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ttbiker
Hi Wassa, I just recently got my ST170 MGB up and running it should be on the road in the next couple of weeks, I'll post some pics up when I get chance..



Look forward to seing them

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big_wasa

posted on 18/5/16 at 06:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Case_Sensitive
quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
More information the better. Each one I do I get the info over a little better.( not my strong point) See the Zetec SE.

My next one is for a mid engine.

Coming soon Focus rs managed turbo Zetec.

Brilliant! Is that a fuel tank or N2O?

My heart will likely ultimately take me back to aFord Racing Puma, and the Sigma / Zetec SE


Yeh it's a converted fire extinguisher for a fuel tank.

I love the simplicity of the Zetec e.

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Vindicator666

posted on 18/5/16 at 10:31 PM Reply With Quote
only see page 5?

for some reason i can only see up to page 5, anyone else having the same issues?
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ttbiker

posted on 24/8/16 at 08:56 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
quote:
Originally posted by ttbiker
Hi Wassa, I just recently got my ST170 MGB up and running it should be on the road in the next couple of weeks, I'll post some pics up when I get chance..



Look forward to seing them

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/photos.php?action=showphoto&photo=2IMAG0497_zps1s7cgxo2.jpg

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ttbiker

posted on 24/8/16 at 10:44 AM Reply With Quote
Here's the full car Wassa..
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/photos.php?action=showphoto&photo=IMAG0493_zpsrqfdbgoc.jpg

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big_wasa

posted on 24/8/16 at 02:55 PM Reply With Quote
Nice work so you got the inlet in OK.


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ttbiker

posted on 24/8/16 at 04:37 PM Reply With Quote
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Nice work so you got the inlet in OK.




Yes no problems, it's runs really well maybe looking at supercharging it next year

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hairball29

posted on 28/9/17 at 04:05 PM Reply With Quote
Evap codes question

Hi, all

First time here and I really hope someone can help me with a nagging problem i have.

I live in the states and I have a Caterham with an '04 SVT motor and I need to get it through emissions here in Georgia. Emissions here doesn't actually mean what comes out the exhaust, it means they plug a reader into the OBD port and fail it if any codes exist, whether or not they're related to exhaust gas! It's strange, but i'm stuck with it.

My problem is that my car has codes p0453 and p1451 permanently in the system due to how the wiring and/or switches were modified for this car, but i see from reading this thread that it's possible to install a resistor to perhaps tell the ECU (pin 56 perhaps?) that all is well with the tank pressure and stop the codes reappearing.

The other requirement from the man is i have to have MIL on the dash. I can't see from the diagram which pin relates to the MIL. I think it's pin 2 from what else I've read, but I wonder if anyone can help me figure the above out? If so, does this pin switch to ground or + voltage when a code is present?

I've called mechanics and garages and most won't go near this car because it's weird. The car's also a pain to start, but that's my next challenge for when I can get it roadworthy

thanks in advance

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jeanp

posted on 9/2/20 at 06:09 PM Reply With Quote
Hi everybody!
I posted few months ago some questions about restarting my ST 170 engine: Someone of this blog give me an advice, so I followed the Excel sheet on this post and now, the engine run! Magic!!!
Well, now I've some questions about a pipe and 3 hoses: for the moment I just put plugs and scotch tape but if you can help me to find what to do with, it 'll be great!
the problem is that I don't know how to do to put a picture on the post!!!

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big_wasa

posted on 10/2/20 at 12:38 PM Reply With Quote
The "how to" thread gets more traffic and there for replies.

Really need a photo

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jeanp

posted on 1/6/20 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
Hello!
I hope everybody is fine!
I restarted the engine in the car for the first time this afternoon
a little video:

https://studio.youtube.com/video/it3kjWm0zzs/edit

on the video it seems great, but in reality there is some problems...:

The engine idling run few minutes , but when acceletated, it stalls

After checking the fuses, I find the fuel pump relay fuse (15A) blown; So I replace a new one and I do the same and same result ; I tried third time and again!!!
I don't understand!?!?
The second thing is my fuel pump: I find it very hot after 6 minutes running (the pump is a Sytec (Bosch type 044) 200 liters/hrs),and it's close the fuel tank....not my best idea!

Can you give me some advice, or something to check, please?
Cheers
Jean

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Cobra289

posted on 1/6/20 at 06:50 PM Reply With Quote
video doesn't work. (the link is incorrect)





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jeanp

posted on 1/6/20 at 08:06 PM Reply With Quote
sorry,
try with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it3kjWm0zzs

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big_wasa

posted on 1/6/20 at 08:14 PM Reply With Quote
Take that gauze of the maf for a start. It upsets it for some reason.
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big_wasa

posted on 1/6/20 at 08:16 PM Reply With Quote
That exhaust manifold will strangle it.
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Cobra289

posted on 1/6/20 at 08:16 PM Reply With Quote
It looks like there is a problem with the filter (clogged) or the tank pressure system.





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