Abe
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| posted on 14/5/19 at 08:18 PM |
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Tiger cat e1 registered as a ford on Mot.gov
Hi all. Newbie poster here. I’ve been looking at Tigers for a little while now. Went to pick one up I bought on eBay last week... amazing write up and
spec that turned out to have very little done and even less on the car than listed.. very weird, so I walked away.
Anyhooo I’ve seen another one, competitively priced, but when I typed in the reg number on the .gov mot checker it comes up as a blue ford (original
donor car? - but no model) - the tiger is blue and the mileage matches the car. Can anyone help clarify whether to steer clear or nothing to worry
about, old legislation etc? Many thanks in advance - Andy
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scudderfish
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| posted on 14/5/19 at 08:25 PM |
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Walk away. There will be other, better, correctly registered cars.
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Abe
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| posted on 14/5/19 at 08:31 PM |
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Yeah that’s what my gut feeling is too. Thanks bud
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Norfolkluegojnr
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 07:37 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
Walk away. There will be other, better, correctly registered cars.
Yep, agree with this completely.
If you have to ask yourself the question, you know its best to walk away.
Put up a wanted ad on the Facebook page, it gets a lot of activity. 
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Abe
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 08:03 AM |
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Thanks for your reply. I’ll go and check out the Facebook page 😊👍
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nick205
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 08:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Norfolkluegojnr
quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
Walk away. There will be other, better, correctly registered cars.
Yep, agree with this completely.
If you have to ask yourself the question, you know its best to walk away.
Put up a wanted ad on the Facebook page, it gets a lot of activity.
I agree as well - walk away and find another better (correctly registered) car. Don't involve yourself in hassle you don't need.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 09:29 AM |
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What else is it registered as? Is it a Ford 'Special' or something other than a regular ford car?
Its quite possible to correctly registered but still have ford as the make. Speak to the seller and ask to see the V5.
[Edited on 15-5-19 by loggyboy]
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Slater
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 10:21 AM |
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Best to check via the actual V5 document in my opinion. Do not rely on the MOT website.
For example - On the MOT website mine just says "Unknown Unknown", but does have the correct colour, fuel type and date of registration of
my kit (2009). My kit is 100% correctly registered, although the V5 document says MACH 1 instead of MAC#1.
Why do they call Port Harcourt "The Garden City"?...... Becauase they can't spell Stramash.
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Abe
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 10:52 AM |
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Reg number is C456 PNJ. On the MOT website it’s just registered as a ford and that’s it. It says registered in 1985. Tiger cat wasn’t around then was
it.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 11:50 AM |
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Type that reg in on Eurocarparts or similar sites that acess the database and it comes up as NA.
Registration date will be that of original Donor. Looks legit to me.
Unfortunately the waters are muddied by the DVLA procedures and conventions that vary on a time to time and personnel to personnel basis.
I suspect the v5 will have more information under the 'notes' section that will reveal more.
MoT history also comes up with no info before 2006 so again points to a legit history for the car itself. This would have been pre IVA, but post
SVA.
[Edited on 15-5-19 by loggyboy]
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gremlin1234
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 12:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Abe
Thanks for the replies guys.
Reg number is C456 PNJ. On the MOT website it’s just registered as a ford and that’s it. It says registered in 1985. Tiger cat wasn’t around then was
it.
if you enter that reg into the check car is taxed website
https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/
it returns that it is
quote:
Vehicle details
Vehicle make: TIGER CAT E1
Date of first registration: November 1985
Year of manufacture: 1985
Cylinder capacity (cc): 1993 cc
CO₂Emissions: Not available
Fuel type: PETROL
Euro Status: Not available
Export marker: No
Vehicle status: SORN in place
Vehicle colour: BLUE
so looks like it is registered correctly! go for it
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Abe
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 01:17 PM |
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Brill thanks mate. The seller seems legit I’m going to go and take a look now.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 01:27 PM |
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^^ I'd want to see the actual V5 - the 'special notes' bit in particular
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big_wasa
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 01:36 PM |
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If enough parts from the donor where used it could be on an age related plate. Mine is on an E plate as it was a single donor build.
It should have had an Sva, see if the owner has any paperwork. I didn’t even test drive my current one as the only important bit to me was it was
correctly registered.
The Cat isn’t the lightest or sportiest of 7’s due to using the full Sierra rear beam and trailing arms but I would have one over the old Robin hoods
any day.
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Abe
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| posted on 15/5/19 at 07:27 PM |
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Well I drove 100 miles to see said Tiger and wasn’t happy with the paperwork and rather strange backstory. The car certainly didn’t look like it had
passed an mot within the last year...I wasn’t given an mot certificate to look at, just that .gov mot printout. I did see another Tiger after that
visit and the guy took me for a spin, felt really sorted. Now deciding. Thanks for all your input.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 16/5/19 at 05:57 AM |
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As already suggested, there are better cars out there than the Tiger for sale that don’t have massive subframes etc and drive/handle so much better
for it. Have you looked in the for sale section on here? Maybe someone local to you could take you for a ride in a well set up car to give you an idea
what to expect?
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Abe
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| posted on 16/5/19 at 01:26 PM |
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Thanks for the suggestion 😊
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overdriver
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| posted on 16/5/19 at 03:58 PM |
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To be fair, in defence of the Tiger (Cat) although the semi trailing arm Sierra rear suspension is a little on the weighty side it is fully
independent and gives a surprisingly compliant ride providing a good balance of comfort and grip.
What it certainly doesn't have is 'massive subframes'!?!
Michael.
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Abe
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| posted on 16/5/19 at 04:37 PM |
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There’s so many varied answers here it’s really interesting. After initially feeling the sale wasn’t right I decided to do some more digging (both the
seller and the paperwork). I phoned the DVLA the the DVSA, went and spoke to a fellow mechanic who’s an MOT tester, every single person I spoke to
said it all checks out fine and that it needs no further testing. Interestingly the mot.gov website only states Ford which is what made me look into
all this further, when the DVSA guy looked at the same info on his computer it’s listed as a tiger cat at some MOT visits and this has been manually
entered by the tester and this was confirmed by the tester I spoke to today.
So at £1850 I’m pretty tempted
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Abe
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| posted on 16/5/19 at 04:38 PM |
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I’ve also checked all this with Adrian Flux and they are happy
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02GF74
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| posted on 16/5/19 at 05:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
Walk away. There will be other, better, correctly registered cars.
No. What is on the v5 is what matters. .
What appears on the mot is what the tester wrote
and it can be anything he/she likes.
My mot states car is Caterham but is registered correctly.
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40inches
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| posted on 16/5/19 at 05:20 PM |
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"So at £1850 I’m pretty tempted"
Had a mate who built the same model. Nothing wrong with it, and at that price, a bit of a steal
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02GF74
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| posted on 16/5/19 at 05:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Abe
Thanks for the replies guys.
Reg number is C456 PNJ. On the MOT website it’s just registered as a ford and that’s it. It says registered in 1985. Tiger cat wasn’t around then was
it.
No. On mot it is whatever the tester wrote, it is not what it is registered as registered. .
V5 is what matters.
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Abe
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| posted on 16/5/19 at 05:31 PM |
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Ah ok thank you.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/5/19 at 05:32 PM |
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£1850 for an on the road kitcar at this time of year is a bargain, I would go as far as saying to good.
The cat does use the Sierra rear beam and that is a sub frame. But I would still have one for a road car but maybe not a full on track car.
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