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Markymark

posted on 16/7/23 at 08:03 AM Reply With Quote
OBP pedal box return springs

Hi all,

Anybody using the OBP universal kit car pedal box?

The throttle pedal is going to need a return spring but it's proving a headache to sort out, anybody else had to do this? Also has anybody fitted them to the brake and clutch pedals?

Any info would be really appreciated

Many thanks in advance

Mark

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JAG

posted on 17/7/23 at 07:36 AM Reply With Quote
Why do you need a return spring on any of the pedals?

The Throttle should have a return spring at the throttle body or carburettor

The Clutch has a huge spring built into it that should return the pedal - whether it's cable or hydraulic

The Brakes will also return naturally

So I'm confused

Oh and a picture of the pedal box would help us provide some suggestions for spring location etc....

[Edited on 17/7/23 by JAG]





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MikeR

posted on 17/7/23 at 07:36 AM Reply With Quote
I've struggled with this. Fitted a spring just under the cable mounting so it stops the spring sliding off the pedal
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Markymark

posted on 17/7/23 at 01:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JAG
Why do you need a return spring on any of the pedals?

The Throttle should have a return spring at the throttle body or carburettor

The Clutch has a huge spring built into it that should return the pedal - whether it's cable or hydraulic

The Brakes will also return naturally

So I'm confused

Oh and a picture of the pedal box would help us provide some suggestions for spring location etc....

[Edited on 17/7/23 by JAG]


So I'm just looking at the throttle pedal at the moment, and basically because it doesn't return via the throttle spring alone.



Picture courtesy of Craigdiver

I was thinking some kind of torsion spring is what's required, but there isn't much room around the pivot. Any pictures of your solution please MikeR?

Many thanks again

Mark

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MikeR

posted on 17/7/23 at 09:20 PM Reply With Quote
Ah, my obp pedal box is older than that and top mounted throttle. Sorry.
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JAG

posted on 18/7/23 at 08:14 AM Reply With Quote
That's an unusual throttle pedal design

So when you press the pedal it pulls the throttle cable down - so you could put a compression spring under the back of the pedal or....

you could put a torsion spring, like the picture below, around the pivot bolt








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JAG

posted on 18/7/23 at 08:16 AM Reply With Quote
Or maybe something like this one








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Markymark

posted on 19/7/23 at 12:42 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the replies.

Yes that is the type of thing I was looking at. The main problem is the lack of space either side of the pedal. OBP do a throttle spring for one of there other pedal boxes but there just isn't the room on this one.



Will keep trawling the internet and see what I can dig up.

Thanks again

Mark

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Rallychris

posted on 19/7/23 at 01:31 PM Reply With Quote
Mark,

Whilst I don't have the same OBP pedal box, I'm using a similar format generic pedal box in my RH build. On that there is provision for an extension spring to be mounted in parallel with the throttle cable, so could you do something similar on yours? I did find an Austin Metro single torsion spring that looked promising for adaptation onto my pedal but didn't bother in the end. There is also a Land Rover Defender throttle spring available on eBay as another alternative.

pedal box 1
pedal box 1


For the Brake and Clutch pedals I modified the assembly to use a Rover Mini pedal return spring so they return to the stop position provided by the pedal box housing. It's not that important in operation of the car, but during build with no hydraulics in place it made it much easier to simulate the pedal function.

pedal 2
pedal 2


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ReMan

posted on 21/7/23 at 10:08 AM Reply With Quote
Fore the throttle, id still be inclined to focus on extra return spring at the carb end, and of course make sure your cable is routed without any twist that is causing drag
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