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andyace

posted on 19/1/07 at 04:47 PM Reply With Quote
Zx9r E Carbs and ZX9r Pump questions

Hello all,

I have a few questions on the above :

Pump :
1) Am I right in thinking that the pipe with the filter on is the output

2) The other seems to have a T junction on it as if being fed from the tank and a return, would this be right ?

3) Is it ok to mount this slightly higher than the tank?

Carbs :
4) The carbs seem to have a pip with an inline filter, would I be correct in guessing this is the input ?

5) There also seems to be a return which did not appear on a previous set of type B carbs I had. Is this return necessary ? If it is then I assume it links back to the return pipe feeding the pump?

6) The carbs have a single pipe going into the bottom of them and also a number of pipes coming out the top. Am I right in thinking that these are breather pipes and can be ignored.

7) Should there be any water pipes for cooling?

I will try and get some pictures if the above is not that obvious.

Thanks in advance, Andy

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Wadders

posted on 19/1/07 at 05:02 PM Reply With Quote
Pipe from pump with filter is output to carbs.

inlet to carbs splits into 2 with a tee piece ( 2 x inlet stubs)

No return is needed

Breather pipes x 2 are high up on carb bodies

water cooling pipes are not needed

Pump would be better primed on gravity from tank.

Al.

[Edited on 19/1/07 by Wadders]






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mcerd1

posted on 19/1/07 at 05:16 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
Pipe from pump with filter is output to carbs.

inlet to carbs splits into 2 with a tee piece ( 2 x inlet stubs)

No return is needed.

Al.

thats what I thought too

Are your carbs like these ?


as far as I can tell they don't have the water conections like the older ones

fuel goes in the bottom

and the little plastic ones at the top go to the airbox I think

my pump is off a B1 (apparently) does it look similar to yours ?


if yours has a T-junction on the tank side this could be for the normal and reserve tank (although most bikes I've seen only have 1 pipe and 2 positions on the tap)


- If any of this is wrong please let me know, otherwise it could be messy when I plumb mine in !

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andyace

posted on 19/1/07 at 05:26 PM Reply With Quote
Sort of like those, they certainly look like type E carbs, however the piping is different on the carbs and pump.

I will take a piccy later. Thanks

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mackei23b

posted on 19/1/07 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, the carbs look like an E type and the pump mounts looks like a B type.

I have a pump from a B type and a C type and they look identical though I don't have a part number.

Check out www.kawasaki.com and they have part diagrams and numbers under the owners section.

Cheers

Ian

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soggy 3

posted on 20/1/07 at 01:14 AM Reply With Quote
I asked about the pipes when i fitted them these were the replys i got http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=52917


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andyace

posted on 20/1/07 at 03:32 PM Reply With Quote
ZX9r Carbs
ZX9r Carbs


As you can see there appears to be a fuel in with an inline filter on the left. This seems to feed the left hand 2 carbs and then a joining pipe appears to feed the right hand 2. There then appears to be a return.

At the top of the carbs there is a breather pipe, I assume this can be left to open air.

There also is an inlet at the bottom of the carbs (marked ???), no idea what this is.

Any help would be appreciated. I want to avoid having a fuel return if possible but want to put one in sooner rather than later if it is needed.

Also see next pic below for fuel pump.

Many thanks, andy

[Edited on 20/1/07 by andyace]

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andyace

posted on 20/1/07 at 03:42 PM Reply With Quote
ZX9r Fuel Pump
ZX9r Fuel Pump


I am assuming that the outlet is the one with the inline filter on it.

The inlet appears to take a feed from two places, would this be the main tank and a return from the carbs ?

Or as suggested above a secondary tank ?

Many thanks, Andy

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jacko

posted on 20/1/07 at 07:47 PM Reply With Quote
Hi on your photo the pipe withthe ????on is the fuel pipe in,
the pipe with the fillter on is water in or out the outher pipe is water too
breather pipe is right it wants a air fillter fitting on dont get muck in it

The fuel pump in as you have it : ps you don,t need a fuel return
Jacko

[Edited on 20/1/07 by jacko]

[Edited on 20/1/07 by jacko]

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andyace

posted on 20/1/07 at 10:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jacko
Hi on your photo the pipe withthe ????on is the fuel pipe in,
the pipe with the fillter on is water in or out the outher pipe is water too
breather pipe is right it wants a air fillter fitting on dont get muck in it

The fuel pump in as you have it : ps you don,t need a fuel return
Jacko



Ah it all becomes clearer now. The inline filter which I thought was fuel, on closer inspection the inlet was far too small for fuel.

Do you think it is worth/possible to plumb in the water lines for cooling ?

Many thanks for the answers.

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jacko

posted on 21/1/07 at 10:25 AM Reply With Quote
Hi and good morning no i don,t think so i don,t use it have you set the carbs up at all ie drilled the jets ?
Graham

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andyace

posted on 21/1/07 at 03:32 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Graham, thanks for the advice.

The carbs are due to be shipped off to Bogg Bros to be stripped, cleaned and rejetted + New shiny manifold and filters.

Dont know much about messing with carbs so I thought I would leave it to those in the know.

A bit of a luxury, but still works out cheaper than webbers/dellortos.

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jacko

posted on 21/1/07 at 05:10 PM Reply With Quote
Hi yes Bogg brothers are very good at what they do i had my car set up by them on there r/ road 140bhp at the wheels well chuffed Graham
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