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SJ

posted on 16/6/20 at 07:08 PM Reply With Quote
Looks like a cross between a Beta HPE and a Delta.
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ettore bugatti

posted on 16/6/20 at 07:36 PM Reply With Quote
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Looks like a cross between a Beta HPE and a Delta.


Exactly what the doctor ordered

[Edited on 16/6/20 by ettore bugatti]

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posted on 16/6/20 at 07:37 PM Reply With Quote
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Ended up with a new sketch since something wasn't quite right with the greenhouse on the other sketch:
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I'd be pleased if I'd made that. Nice drawing thank you EB


No problem at all.
Hopefully, it will be useful in some way in the build.

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John Bonnett

posted on 16/6/20 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
With the inspiration you chaps have given me I'm straining at the leash to get going. Frustratingly, I'm held up for material at the moment, principally the round tube for the A post and the sheet for the windscreen aperture. So as an interim measure I'll get started on modifying the exhaust manifold which is the standard Focus one but tubular and hopefully should flow well.

I'll keep you posted.

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HowardB

posted on 17/6/20 at 12:38 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by ettore bugatti
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Originally posted by John Bonnett
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Originally posted by ettore bugatti
Ended up with a new sketch since something wasn't quite right with the greenhouse on the other sketch:
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I'd be pleased if I'd made that. Nice drawing thank you EB


No problem at all.
Hopefully, it will be useful in some way in the build.


It looks great,. I quite like this shape too,...



1979 Talbot Sunbeam-Lotus specifications
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Wheelbase 2413 mm 95 inches
Track/tread (front) 1341 mm 52.8 inches
Track/tread (rear) 1328 mm 52.3 inches
Length 3830 mm 150.8 inches

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Fisher Fury was 2000 Zetec - now a 1600 (it Lives again and goes zoom)

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John Bonnett

posted on 18/6/20 at 03:36 PM Reply With Quote
Whilst waiting for materials I've been experimenting with pie cuts to form an exhaust pipe bend. These are 10 degree cuts welded together which will hopefully put the pipe where I want it.

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John Bonnett

posted on 20/6/20 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
Using the pie cut technique, I've produced a pipe to extend the manifold to a point tight to the engine and with the outlet in line with te exhaust pipe.

The materials are now in and I've commenced the laborious task of shaping the windscreen aperture.




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Mr Whippy

posted on 20/6/20 at 10:00 PM Reply With Quote
So are you building everything, scratch building all the internal structure of the body as well? This is a bit epic...
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John Bonnett

posted on 21/6/20 at 06:50 AM Reply With Quote
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So are you building everything, scratch building all the internal structure of the body as well? This is a bit epic...




Absolute madness but that's the idea.

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John Bonnett

posted on 22/6/20 at 06:13 PM Reply With Quote
A lot of hours but some progress in forming the screen aperture. Both stretching and shrinking is needed to replicate the curvature. It has been a case of a little bit and check and a little bit more. The L section I'm forming is 8 ft long and a bit unwieldy. But we're getting there. The scecond piece for the top edge will be much shorter and not have so much shape.


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HowardB

posted on 22/6/20 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
I applaud your absolute madness!!

Encore!





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John Bonnett

posted on 22/6/20 at 07:12 PM Reply With Quote
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I applaud your absolute madness!!

Encore!


I thank you Howard.

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Mr Whippy

posted on 26/6/20 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
So I saw this and thought of your car...

Ok it's quite different but lots of ideas and Russian vodka induced craziness and tbh in a strange way it looks quite cool in a mad 80's retro style I'd love one but you'd have had to work in the KGB or something to own one I'm sure and now their probably priceless or locked away in some vault.

They do seem to have a bit of a panel gap issue going on Maybe they moved on to work with Tesla...







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John Bonnett

posted on 27/6/20 at 05:16 PM Reply With Quote
If my car turns out like that its first trip would be to the crusher
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ettore bugatti

posted on 27/6/20 at 08:25 PM Reply With Quote
Maybe some graphics will help?


I dont think the rear end is looking too bad, it is just that Countach inspired nose doesn't work on front engined package

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John Bonnett

posted on 27/6/20 at 08:31 PM Reply With Quote
We'll have to agree to differ I'm afraid.
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John Bonnett

posted on 6/7/20 at 02:50 PM Reply With Quote
I'm still having nightmares that my car might end up looking like that Russian thing and that together with other comments about my sketches looking "Boxy" I may have to re-think the shape of the body altogether. Curves to replace the straight lines which in any case will be easier to achieve and perhaps result in a more pleasing result.

Along with the Fiesta MK5 windscreen I'm going to try to use the dashboard as well, complete with all switches and clocks. Although the speedometer normally uses a Hall effect sensor in the Fiesta gearbox, Speedy cables can supply a sensor and an adaptor box to calibrate the unit on the fly.

Work is progressing on the windscreen frame and I hope to be able to share some photos over the next week or so.

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HowardB

posted on 6/7/20 at 03:06 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by John Bonnett
I'm still having nightmares that my car might end up looking like that Russian thing and that together with other comments about my sketches looking "Boxy" I may have to re-think the shape of the body altogether. Curves to replace the straight lines which in any case will be easier to achieve and perhaps result in a more pleasing result.

Along with the Fiesta MK5 windscreen I'm going to try to use the dashboard as well, complete with all switches and clocks. Although the speedometer normally uses a Hall effect sensor in the Fiesta gearbox, Speedy cables can supply a sensor and an adaptor box to calibrate the unit on the fly.

Work is progressing on the windscreen frame and I hope to be able to share some photos over the next week or so.


Boxy is ok as long as it has proportions - viz the Lotus Sunbeam, Mk1 Golf and even the Esprit,. classics then and classics now.

PS I am sure that it will be amazing, the only right angles are on your chassis, everything else can be curves





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John Bonnett

posted on 6/7/20 at 03:23 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by HowardB
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Originally posted by John Bonnett
I'm still having nightmares that my car might end up looking like that Russian thing and that together with other comments about my sketches looking "Boxy" I may have to re-think the shape of the body altogether. Curves to replace the straight lines which in any case will be easier to achieve and perhaps result in a more pleasing result.

Along with the Fiesta MK5 windscreen I'm going to try to use the dashboard as well, complete with all switches and clocks. Although the speedometer normally uses a Hall effect sensor in the Fiesta gearbox, Speedy cables can supply a sensor and an adaptor box to calibrate the unit on the fly.

Work is progressing on the windscreen frame and I hope to be able to share some photos over the next week or so.


Boxy is ok as long as it has proportions - viz the Lotus Sunbeam, Mk1 Golf and even the Esprit,. classics then and classics now.

PS I am sure that it will be amazing, the only right angles are on your chassis, everything else can be curves



Very nicely put Howard, thank you. I was half joshing about boxy but in reality, for an amateur metal shaper straight sharp lines are hard to achieve and if they are not perfectly executed the result will look awful. Curves are much easier for me so for that reason I'm leaning heavily towards a 60s style rather than a 70/80s look of the cars we've mentioned. Once I've got to grips with the windscreen frame and the basic structure I can make some sweeps and see what might work. Rather than a wooden buck like I've used before, this time I'm going to try a wire frame using 6mm steel bar. And that doesn't bend as easily as one might think!

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