Stuart Walker
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 12:13 PM |
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Removable Steering Wheel
Hi,
I failed SVA (one of many points...) on "Steering wheel to column attachment". I think the problem was the method of attachment of the
column side of the removable boss kit onto the column. So my question is, has anyone passed SVA with a removable steering wheel, or does it have to be
fixed?
And also, has anyone used the MAC#1 removable boss kit? And if so how have you attached it to the column? Welded on?
Cheers,
Stu
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JohnN
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 12:25 PM |
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I passed at shrewsbury, summer last year, with a removable steering wheel, however....
It was a "Snap Off" brand , which could be locked with a key to the column. The examiner simply required the two keys, Ignition & Snap
Off, to be permanantly fixed on a common key ring, in order that you couldn't start the engine with the wheel removed (the snap off key is a
captive key), or remove the wheel with the engine running. In my case I welded the spiral ring up.
The examiner warned that I shouldn't advise others that this was an acceptable solution, as he was unlikely to approve it in the future. 
My advice would be to use the standard sierra? wheel for the test.......
Reading your post again, "the column side of the removable boss" mine was a sierra fitment, pentagon? shaped keyway, exactly the same as
the original wheel, fitted to the column, the captive part of the "Snap Off" boss was then bolted to this via 6? or so small allen headed
bolts, that are covered, when the wheel is fitted.
If the concern is for these 6 bolts, then it would be the same for most if not all ordinary (ie non removable) aftermarket wheels, as they all have
the same fixing detail.
[Edited on 4/1/07 by JohnN]
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nib1980
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 12:25 PM |
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How have yopu attached it? got any pics?
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 12:35 PM |
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Gosforth failed my Sierra wheel on height. i had to fit my italian origin aftermarket wheel (SWM iirc, which was OK for radii etc etc) on a
replacement collapsible boss.
I got the Italian wheel with a snap off kit (2nd hand). I was told that in no way could i use the removable boss. The only acceptable solution if i
was not using the std OE type approved wheel was to used a non-removable collapsible boss.
The only downside to all of this is that the wheel does end up closer to driver, but i prefer this after been taught to keep the wheel closer on a
rally course.
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Stuart Walker
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 12:36 PM |
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At the moment it's held on by the big blue bolt at the end and a nut and bolt through a small hole drilled through both (no pics unfortunately,
and am not where the car is..).
Mine doesnt lock, so you could take it off while the engine was running. Not that I would do, but sounds like it might be best fit a standard one for
now.
Cheers
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Stuart Walker
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 12:38 PM |
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Mine was at Gosforth too Darren, so I'll assume I would be told the same. Standard wheel it is.
Thanks guys
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 01:09 PM |
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fit standard one
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russbost
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 01:19 PM |
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My car passed SVA with a removable Racetech steering wheel, which attaches with a pull-back collar. The "other half" is welded to the
existing steering column. I queried with SVA b4 building whether there is any objection to a removeable wheel & was told there is not - so far as
I recall there is nothing in the SVA manual regarding this. I guess it's just yet another example of different standards being applied by
different stations, & yet another reason for fitting bits to pass the test that you have no intention of using.
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nitram38
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 01:40 PM |
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I'm with Russ as I have a similar set up.
No queries from Mitcham SVA. The examiner (Michael) even had to remove/replace it for the test drive etc as it is impossible to get in or out without
it.
Counts towards antitheft devices as well !
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[Edited on 4/1/2007 by nitram38]
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 01:41 PM |
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David at Gosforth is known for his hard line views on areas that are not necessarily stated in the book. He is however very fair in that he was
willing to sensibly discuss (after the test) how i could fix most of the fail points.
As said i didnt present my car with the snap off but did ask if this was a potential option. My fail was purely on the height of the wheel for which a
smaller aftermarket wheel was a potential solution. Only other thing to be mindful of is that my Dad failed at Gosforth with a std Sierra wheel for
being too low, the tester complained he couldnt drive the car safely even tho' it was fine for my father. So by changing from one solution to
another you have to be careful that you dont inadvertently introduce another fail.
Good luck Stuart with the retest. Might be worth you registering on ne7ers as there is a good trackday coming up at Teesside autodrome so you can do
some testing post SVA.
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iank
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 01:51 PM |
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It is an interpretation issue, but there is wording in the manual.
It says in the manual (Section 15.1 Para 4dii) - failure points
"d. A steering component
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ii. insecure
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Arguably a removable steering wheel can't be secure in the sense of firmly bolted to the car.
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nitram38
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 01:53 PM |
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I would argue!!!!!!!!!!
Wheels are removeable, but are still secure!!! (well sometimes they are) 
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iank
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 02:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
I would argue!!!!!!!!!!
Wheels are removeable, but are still secure!!! (well sometimes they are)
The key word here is bolted 
If they were passing wheels held on by a spline with a lock barrel or a pull button arrangement I'd agree
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graememk
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 02:03 PM |
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i have a 12" wheel, pad and boss i would gladly lend you for sva, its from a tiger and its what the use on there pre built sva'ed cars so
should be fine
you pay the pnp both ways, lone for free.
[Edited on 4/1/07 by graememk]
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 02:18 PM |
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Ref manual interpretation, it would appear that where there is some vague areas that can be viewed differently several testers would take a look at
the solutions provided by the main stream manufacturers that have been type approved. In this case there are probably very few that have fitted
removable (ie quick release) steering wheels to mainstream cars.
At the end of the day the SVA people dont want to have someones serious injury or death on their hands (ie in a car that they have approved) as a
result of something that could have been avoided by the application of their years of experience. If in doubt its best to stick with the Ford wheel,
might as well play safe and avoid another £30 etc.
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BenB
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 05:45 PM |
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Yup. Passed with a "pull-back" removable steering wheel (not sure on the make) but the tester seemed keen to pass the car.....
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