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GavMax - 17/2/12 at 09:16 PM

drive shafts from a westfield rear hub?

I removed the boot tothe UJ and there aren't any visible bolts.

Do I need to remove the nut from the hub shaft and the shaft itself to get to the bolts or am I missing something?

Thanks
Gavin

steve m - 17/2/12 at 10:01 PM

oh, that was a boring thread,

The header said "How do I remove..."

And i thourght my wife!
she is well pissing me off at the moment !

Steve

nick205 - 17/2/12 at 10:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by steve m
oh, that was a boring thread,

The header said "How do I remove..."

And i thourght my wife!
she is well pissing me off at the moment !

Steve



Drafting in a younger fitter version usually helps to displace the incumbent one. Take care though as this can be an expensive process with long term side effects

nick205 - 17/2/12 at 10:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by GavMax
drive shafts from a westfield rear hub?

I removed the boot tothe UJ and there aren't any visible bolts.

Do I need to remove the nut from the hub shaft and the shaft itself to get to the bolts or am I missing something?

Thanks
Gavin



What are the drive shafts from - a Sierra.

Either way, it sounds like you have push-in type shafts in which case you need to remove the large hub nut from the end of shaft and the drive shafts should slide out of the hub. Note that one side is a right hand thread, the other is a left hand thread and they are (or should be) done up very tight.

HTH

hicost blade - 17/2/12 at 10:33 PM

Hi Gavin

Yes you need to remove the nut, the drive shaft may be a little stiff in the bearing, just crack the nut off a couple of threads and tap it (the nut) with a mallet to begin its journey through the upright.

Why do you want to remove it? There is a chance you may destroy the wheel bearing while taking it out

snapper - 18/2/12 at 06:38 AM

Why would removing the shaft destroy the bearing????
Done it loads of times, yes the hub nut is tight but once undone the hub will pull away from the shaft

snowy2 - 18/2/12 at 08:19 AM

from memory the wheel bearing is a one piece unit and will stay in the hub when the drive shaft is removed, it'll be fine and wont be damaged.

wilkingj - 18/2/12 at 10:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Either way, it sounds like you have push-in type shafts in which case you need to remove the large hub nut from the end of shaft and the drive shafts should slide out of the hub. Note that one side is a right hand thread, the other is a left hand thread and they are (or should be) done up very tight.

HTH


Yes these hub Nuts ARE very tight 245Ft Lbs from memory.
I welded a bit of square section to an old disc and then a couple of bits of pipe as extending levers, on the disc and the socket bar.
It still made a good bend in a solid 1/2" bar
Mind you the longest pipe was 9ft long. It all made the job very easy indeed.
Remember one of them is Left Hand Thread. Look closely at the end of the thread on the shaft to see which is which before attempting to undo them.
Also put them back on the correct side of the car. Its the reason one has a Left Hand Thread and the other is a RH thread.

Hope this helps

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GavMax - 19/2/12 at 05:02 PM

Thanks all for your help everyone.

I borrowed a similar tool to the one described by Nick and both nuts are now off and the shafts out.

The UJ has no plunge and as my set up isn't standard, I need to modify the driveshaft and replace the outer stub shaft with a plunge UJ type to cover the travel.

Steve - sorry for the boring thread - changing wives - scary - I do cowardice.

All the best
Gavin

hicost blade - 20/2/12 at 12:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by snapper
Why would removing the shaft destroy the bearing????
Done it loads of times, yes the hub nut is tight but once undone the hub will pull away from the shaft


Because it happend to me, one of the races seized to the drive shaft...

hicost blade - 20/2/12 at 12:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by snowy2
from memory the wheel bearing is a one piece unit and will stay in the hub when the drive shaft is removed, it'll be fine and wont be damaged.


It has 2 internal races, 1 either side. This has been the case on both the Westfields that I have removed the driveshafts from

britishtrident - 20/2/12 at 01:34 PM

ISTR 1980s Westies used and IRS based on Escort/Mk2 Cortina English live axle parts .

hicost blade - 20/2/12 at 05:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by hicost blade
quote:
Originally posted by snapper
Why would removing the shaft destroy the bearing????
Done it loads of times, yes the hub nut is tight but once undone the hub will pull away from the shaft


Because it happend to me, one of the races seized to the drive shaft...


I'm being a knob! it was the hub removal that effed the bearing...

hicost blade - 20/2/12 at 05:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
ISTR 1980s Westies used and IRS based on Escort/Mk2 Cortina English live axle parts .


Correct