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911 vs boxster
02GF74 - 14/7/10 at 12:51 PM

why is a 911 so much more than a boxster yet I cannot see it offers that much more.

e.g. 2004 boxster, £ 13 k vs £ 25 k for a 911.

ok, so there is 200 cc extra but that can't justify the huge hike.

marketing and image baloney?


nick205 - 14/7/10 at 12:55 PM

It's all about the product range.

They need to price them apart enough so they can fit the Caymen (sp?) in between.

Always the resale value to consider as well although there must be a point at which they both bottom out.

I'd guess you might pay more for parts and servicing on the 911 too


Jasper - 14/7/10 at 12:59 PM

I went in a 6 or 7 year old Boxer the other day, I couldn't believe how crappy the interior was, the plastic coating on the door handles was all peeling off, and it all just looked a bit cheap and nasty, I was a bit shocked TBH. My 9 year old Beamer interior is no different from how it was when it was new.....


westf27 - 14/7/10 at 12:59 PM

My names steve,I am an engineer and I drive a 911.If I was called Tarquin,cut hair or swung to the left I would drive a Boxster....simples.

Your get loads of the above.Boxster is a nice alternative and as a covertible looks heaps better than a 911 with a ragtop or hardtop.


Fatgadget - 14/7/10 at 01:07 PM

YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!

The 911 in all its incarnations is the one and only Porsche.Case closed.


thunderace - 14/7/10 at 01:10 PM

boxsters is a 911 wanabee car
and its for girls
and the only guys that drive them are hair dressesr


scootz - 14/7/10 at 01:17 PM

911 is ugly and overpriced. Boxster makes far more sense.

I'd buy a Boxster and use the cash left over on a rocket ship kit-car!


v8kid - 14/7/10 at 01:25 PM

Hmm!

When my eldest daughter finished uni she bought a Porsche and made loads of friends amongst the breakdown services.

To this day when we see a Porsche driver we say "poor ba5tard".

Don't get me wrong it drove superbly but old ones are bad news and new ones are too costly to drive as they are supposed to be driven. All in all a esoteric engineering product, based on a flawed concept that is completely unsuitable for the consumer market.

Give them a miss and get a car that can be driven.


Miks15 - 14/7/10 at 01:29 PM

How could your daughter afford a porshce on coming out of uni? ill probably have a nice chunk of money that could buy a porsche, but unfortunatly its in the red!

quote:
Originally posted by v8kid
Hmm!

When my eldest daughter finished uni she bought a Porsche and made loads of friends amongst the breakdown services.

To this day when we see a Porsche driver we say "poor ba5tard".

Don't get me wrong it drove superbly but old ones are bad news and new ones are too costly to drive as they are supposed to be driven. All in all a esoteric engineering product, based on a flawed concept that is completely unsuitable for the consumer market.

Give them a miss and get a car that can be driven.


v8kid - 14/7/10 at 01:31 PM

She's still in the red!!!

And so am I

[Edited on 14-7-10 by v8kid]


02GF74 - 14/7/10 at 01:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
911 is ugly and overpriced. Boxster makes far more sense.

I'd buy a Boxster and use the cash left over on a rocket ship kit-car!


I'm not worred about hairdresser image - I was thinking of an SLK at one point. :O... but the 911 is better looking IMO but wallet is saying boxster and pocket the change, £ 10 k ish!


Stott - 14/7/10 at 02:01 PM

You don't buy a Porsche boxster because it makes financial sense though!,

You buy it because you couldn't afford the 911!

lol


BobM - 14/7/10 at 02:16 PM

Having had 911s in various guises (3.2, 964, 993 and 996 GT3) the last Porsche I bought was a Cayman S which as a road car was brill, every bit as good as the 911s, if not a bit better. Really nicely balanced, lighter, cheaper to run etc. I think the Boxsters/Caymans are under-rated and better value than the 911s. OK, so the Cayman would only do 170 ...


matt_gsxr - 14/7/10 at 02:23 PM

no back seats in a boxster, which isa big "real life" differentiator.


scootz - 14/7/10 at 02:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Stott
You don't buy a Porsche boxster because it makes financial sense though!,

You buy it because you couldn't afford the 911!

lol


The second biggest lie in history! Just because Jeremy Clarkson said so, doesn't mean it is so.

However... if Chuck Norris said so, then I'd sit up and take notice!

I bought a Boxster S at a time when I could have afforded a 911... the thought of buying a 911 never crossed my mind even though there was one sat right next to the Boxster in the showroom! IMHO they are ugly, over-priced and over-rated.


hughpinder - 14/7/10 at 02:52 PM

Boxsters seem to have a very bad reliability reputation. I know 2 people who have had them (both women now I think about it). One was brand new, and was taken back by the dealer after only being driveable 20 days in the first 5 months. The other was unreliable and sold on fairly quickly.
911s are supposed to be reliable, but I have no experience of them
Regards
Hugh


StevieB - 14/7/10 at 04:59 PM

I;d buy a 996 for about £13-15k.

I would like a boxter, but my last 2nd car was an elise and it wasn't long before I realised I'd prefer a 2+2 coupe so that we could use it for nice family days out.

My attention at the moment is on either a 911 or an XK8 (for less money, and probably actually a bit nicer).


Stott - 14/7/10 at 07:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by Stott
You don't buy a Porsche boxster because it makes financial sense though!,

You buy it because you couldn't afford the 911!

lol


The second biggest lie in history! Just because Jeremy Clarkson said so, doesn't mean it is so.

However... if Chuck Norris said so, then I'd sit up and take notice!

I bought a Boxster S at a time when I could have afforded a 911... the thought of buying a 911 never crossed my mind even though there was one sat right next to the Boxster in the showroom! IMHO they are ugly, over-priced and over-rated.


Never heard him say it? I thought he had a dislike for 911s TBH

I was just poking fun as it's generally what everyone thinks!

Anyway, what's the first biggest lie in history?


RK - 14/7/10 at 07:26 PM

That you can build a car for 250 pounds.


scootz - 14/7/10 at 07:42 PM


Stott - 14/7/10 at 08:43 PM

did you not see this?: http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=138965&page=&contribmessage=none

lol


phelpsa - 14/7/10 at 09:13 PM

I happen to know that one of the most respected race car engineers / designers in the world runs a Boxter S on the road... they can't be THAT bad


iank - 14/7/10 at 09:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Stott
...Never heard him say it? I thought he had a dislike for 911s TBH
...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPhoazBcLYY
2:38


hobbsy - 14/7/10 at 09:25 PM

As others have hinted - the boxster has got the engine in the right place at least.

Chuck a bit of forced induction on it


Stott - 14/7/10 at 09:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by Stott
...Never heard him say it? I thought he had a dislike for 911s TBH
...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPhoazBcLYY
2:38


hahahahahaha, that's nearly what I wrote to the word isn't it?!

PMSL

Just goes to show I should be presenting TG! and at least the camera wouldn't have to go up when it panned across the presenters faces then!


thunderace - 14/7/10 at 09:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Stott
You don't buy a Porsche boxster because it makes financial sense though!,

You buy it because you couldn't afford the 911!

lol




so true lol
thats what i think evry time i see one


Stott - 14/7/10 at 10:11 PM

exactly, I worked as a tech in a porsche/landrover dealer at the time of launch and that was the general concensus anongst everyone!

I know people don't want to hear it and the boxster is a good car in it's own right but this is what everyones thinking when you drive past! lol


morcus - 15/7/10 at 12:16 AM

I think the boxster shape has aged well, and I started liking it fairly recently, same for the Cayman which I also like.

I personally don't care what other people think about me in these matters but most people will see you in your Boxster and assume you wanted a 911. I really like the 944 shape and I wish Porsche had stuck with the FR layout on a sports car rather than trying to make everything look like a 911, a shape based on something Hitler drew on a napkin in a Café 80 years ago (I went there)


Rob Palin - 15/7/10 at 05:12 AM

I recently bought a 2006 Cayman S because they're much more affordable over in the States. That stuff about it and the Boxster somehow being like booby prizes is rubbish.

People joke that the 911 is a great car but has a fundamental flaw in its engine position. The Boxster & Cayman fix that whilst keeping pretty much all the other good qualities of the bigger cars. They're lighter, better balanced and more responsive. They're marginally slower in a straight line but 170mph is 'sufficient' for the real world, isn't it? Plus they're far cheaper. Where is the bad in this? Personally I think they're bloody marvellous!