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Tilo

posted on 15/5/11 at 07:08 PM Reply With Quote
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Hi there,

Anyone ever tried this? I had the seats in the garage for another project... But changes are required. There's almost no gap to the propshaft.















I was working on this, but Smart's seats are way cooler...







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posted on 15/5/11 at 07:22 PM Reply With Quote
I think you need to replace the tubes you cut out and find seats that fit. Loads of them about.






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tomgregory2000

posted on 15/5/11 at 07:39 PM Reply With Quote
could you tell me how wide the seats are on the base? please
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Ben_Copeland

posted on 15/5/11 at 07:42 PM Reply With Quote
Those tubes need to go back !!!

If the seat dont fit with them in, try another seat.

The way it is, is just down right dangerous





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blakep82

posted on 15/5/11 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
whoa! those two tubes that are missing are about worth about half the strentgh of the chassis! you need to get them back in and get some narrower seats!





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Tilo

posted on 15/5/11 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, i know i must have them, but not necessarily in that design... I'm thinking a narrow X type tunnel, reinforced on the sides.

The seats are 50cm wide (because of the back adjuster wheel).





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Ben_Copeland

posted on 15/5/11 at 08:02 PM Reply With Quote
I'd suggest prop catchers then.....





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Tilo

posted on 15/5/11 at 08:03 PM Reply With Quote
I'm not familiar with... Care to explain?





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Ben_Copeland

posted on 15/5/11 at 08:06 PM Reply With Quote
If the prop was to ever let go at a joint, it can smash around in the tunnel... I'd want something to stop it, especially if your sitting so close.





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Tilo

posted on 15/5/11 at 08:17 PM Reply With Quote
I see... Already checked some pics on other threads. What if i built the whole tunnel in 3mm steel plate. That should cover it... It adds weight but that's not my very first concern. I don't intent to use it for track days that often.





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daviep

posted on 15/5/11 at 08:28 PM Reply With Quote
Personally I would say that the seat is completley wrong for a 7, you will find you are sitting much too high.

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 15/5/11 at 08:29 PM Reply With Quote
Seems like a lot of work for some nasty smart (sorry i really dont like them) seats.... That are heavy and too big!

Having to redesign the tunnel, making it heavier all over.





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omega 24 v6

posted on 15/5/11 at 08:35 PM Reply With Quote
I'd also be very worried about where the prop has been cut and joined????





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Tilo

posted on 15/5/11 at 08:36 PM Reply With Quote
Actually, they're lower then the one I was working on. I've seen some great seats, I liked a lot the ones from jkcomposites but they're too expensive and not comfortable at all. As i said, I'll be using it for a drive on weekends on country roads when there's good weather... I'll have all week to think about this and next weekend we'll see what comes out.





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eznfrank

posted on 15/5/11 at 08:37 PM Reply With Quote
Whack them on ebay and buy something more suitable with the proceeds, they're just too big and heavy, not to mention very sponge like in the event of rain
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stevebubs

posted on 15/5/11 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
Try looking at elise seats...
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Tilo

posted on 15/5/11 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Try looking at elise seats...



Look great! Not cheap, sadly...





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stevebubs

posted on 15/5/11 at 09:42 PM Reply With Quote
Cloth ones are often <£150/pr...

Keep an eye out for vx220 seats, also...

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Tilo

posted on 22/5/11 at 12:00 PM Reply With Quote
So, after having a long thought, this is what I came off with...
Leaned the back a little more (is now about 107º), cut and raised the front end of the base so it gives a little more support on the legs without restraining movement and, as you can see, got a regular seatbelt fitted instead of unpractical racing type.









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loggyboy

posted on 22/5/11 at 12:25 PM Reply With Quote
You will need to allow that seat belt sit closer to your hips, where it is now you would likely slide underneath it in an accident! Either that or the edge of the metal will wear the seatbelt over time.
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Ben_Copeland

posted on 22/5/11 at 12:36 PM Reply With Quote
Or the shoulder strap will deform the seat in a crash and not protect you.

I think you need to research more into what you doing before blindly jumping in and endangering yourself and others. This is why in the UK we now have IVA to stop this sort of thing.





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loggyboy

posted on 22/5/11 at 12:41 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
Or the shoulder strap will deform the seat in a crash and not protect you.


Didnt even see that, thought it was connected to the chassis. That the above is exactly right, that mount needs to be alot stronger.
Allthough you dont have to comply with all the silly parts of the IVA, it would well be worth reading the important sections to give you an idea of what will make your car safe for you to drive.

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Tilo

posted on 22/5/11 at 04:52 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, i know, it's not all done yet. I'll cut some off on the sides and it will be lined. After lining i'll be higher and further then it is now...



quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
You will need to allow that seat belt sit closer to your hips, where it is now you would likely slide underneath it in an accident! Either that or the edge of the metal will wear the seatbelt over time.


[Edited on 22/5/11 by Tilo]





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Tilo

posted on 22/5/11 at 05:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
Or the shoulder strap will deform the seat in a crash and not protect you.

I think you need to research more into what you doing before blindly jumping in and endangering yourself and others. This is why in the UK we now have IVA to stop this sort of thing.


No it wont... It will press me against the seat.





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Ben_Copeland

posted on 22/5/11 at 05:42 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tilo
quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
Or the shoulder strap will deform the seat in a crash and not protect you.

I think you need to research more into what you doing before blindly jumping in and endangering yourself and others. This is why in the UK we now have IVA to stop this sort of thing.


No it wont... It will press me against the seat.


Press you against the seat?

As you move forward and press against your seatbelt, the top of your seat thats got no strength in it could squash down or fold forwards.

Take a look at most mass production cars, the seatbelt doesnt apply pressure on the seat like that.





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