flak monkey
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 06:34 PM |
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A day out at VOSA Norwich...
Had a pretty good morning at Norwich test station, started at 8am, and finally got away at about 1:30pm. Failed on two minor points, both of which I
couldn’t have foreseen…
All credit to the guys there (an older guy and a young one training) they did everything they could to ensure the car passed. They allowed plenty of
tinkering time. Once the car was on the speed rollers it started playing up, (being the first time it’s been driven over 50mph). Turned out the
problem was fuel starvation, but it had Dad and I scratching our heads for a while. It was 11:45 at this time, but the guys said, if we could get it
running again by the time they had finished their lunch then they would continue the test. We did get it running spot on again anyway.
The areas I thought would be an issue weren’t. I was concerned about HC on emissions, but it turned out it was 1.8% CO and 215ppm HC (limits 3.5% and
1200ppm). Which was pretty good for an old pinto on 40s home tuned I reckon.
No projections issues, inside or out. Interestingly the indicators on stalks eliminated some of the front suspension from the testers’ ball.
Both testers independently commented on the structural strength of the GTS chassis, and said its the best they have seen, especially compared to many
of the Tigers they seen.
Scraped through the noise test at 98.9dB.
Anyway, the fails, one of which I feel is a bit picky, but never the less its an easy fix:
1. The front indicators were too bright – thought we had this fixed by removing the reflectors. But then the bulbs melted the housings a bit, so that
put a stop to that. So I need a pair of 21w indicators with no reflectors, or 10W ones with.
2. The brake pedal is a bit sticky – this started happening after the brake test. I don’t think the pedal much liked over 100kg of force being applied
to it. I think either the nylon bush in the bottom of the pedal has been mangled, or it has bent the push rod. This is causing the brakes to bind
slightly, but if the pedal is pulled back they are ok.
Drove the car back (50miles) with no problems. Dad followed with the trailer just in case.
Need to wrap the exhaust headers as the under bonnet temps are well up when stationary, but seem good when travelling. We ended up taking the bonnet
off on the speed rollers as it was cooking it a bit.
At the end of the test both testers complimented the build and said it was one of the best they have seen for a while. They also said it was nice to
see a lot of good engineering practice in all areas of the car. Which was certainly nice to hear.
Just need to find time to fix the car (hopefully tomorrow) then work out when I can get it back over for a re-test.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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mookaloid
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 06:42 PM |
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Very unlucky David
However shouldn't be too hard to fix so well done
Cheers
Mark
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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jos
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 06:42 PM |
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well done - relatively easy fixes
youll be on the road in no time
.: Motorsport / motor racing circuit / track wall art Apex Traxs :.
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bigrich
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 06:42 PM |
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shame its a fail but should be easy to sort and the retest should be a fomality, well done mate a real nice clean build
Rich
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blue2cv
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 06:45 PM |
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Indicators too bright, that must be a late April fool joke surely
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jambojeef
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 06:46 PM |
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Thats nothing for a man like you to fix!
Nice one David!
Geoff
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 06:48 PM |
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Well done and bad luck
Its a great looking car. You should pass next time though 
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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locoR1
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 06:49 PM |
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That's a real shame! Still relatively easy fixes and you should be on the road just in time for the rain to stop!
I bet you enjoyed the drive home though
Dave..............
 
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russbost
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 06:59 PM |
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Shame you couldn't have nicked the indicators off another car in the queue
A while in the footwell & you'd have been passed! Ah Well at least they're easy fixes - well done!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 07:02 PM |
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Get your retest request in early - Ditch was given end of July the other day.
Oh - nearly forgot - well done!
[Edited on 5/7/07 by David Jenkins]
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darrens
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 07:03 PM |
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well done, not a bad fail, good old dads, mine followed me down.
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Myke 2463
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 07:22 PM |
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Hi David. Never heard of winkers too bright, too fast / slow. Nice comments to boost your ego. How big was the grin when you got home? Mike.
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scottc
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 07:23 PM |
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Well done david! Thats a pretty good fail.
Not sure about the indicators being too bright though. Thats a litle subjective isn't it?
Anyway, you'll soon be on the road. Congrats!
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flange nut
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 07:52 PM |
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Well done David. I would have argued about the indicators. How can they be too bright if they have the standard 21w bulbs in?
Geoff
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balidey
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 08:33 PM |
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Shame you failed, but as echoed by others, not a bad fail sheet.
I take it the straps held the car on ok?
And how do you define 'too bright', did they use a lux meter? if so what is the pass / fail range. Surely this is not a subjective test? I
don't seem to remember seeing anything in the regs.
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NeilP
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 08:40 PM |
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Good fail David - Did you rebook at the centre? You'll be in the rain before you know it...
If you pay peanuts...
Mentale, yar? Yar, mentale!
Drive it like you stole it!
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ditchlewis
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 08:49 PM |
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well done
to be honest i did hear them talking about bike indicators on tuesday and they mentioned that they could be too bright.
my list of fail points was much much longer... but none are to hard to sort.
i past the noise at 99db, and was told that was an easy pass as noise doubles for each 1db.
did they push you on the gator around the brake pedal to stop dust getting into the master cylinder from inside the car ???
Book your retest TOMORROW AM as the spots are filling fast. my retest is the 31st July at 8pm, there may be slots after me to fill the 3 hours till
the next full test.
i bet you enjoyed the drive home i drove both ways from ispwich about 100 miles and had the best and most satisfying drive of my
life i can't wait for the retest and another 100 miles
ditch
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graememk
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 10:15 PM |
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not to bad, so we'll be seeing you at the next meet then ?
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DavidM
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 10:36 PM |
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Well done David, hope to see the car at the Peterborough meet soon. As long as you don't mind it getting wet.
David
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stevec
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 11:11 PM |
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David,
After the all the attention to detail you have put in to this build you may be a little disappointed, but as already said the fixes are easy. good
luck with the retest.
Steve.
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Paradoxia0
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| posted on 5/7/07 at 11:38 PM |
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Well done and tough luck
I cannot understand the indicators. I have 21w bike indicators (with perlescent lenses) and that wasn't commented on at all!
Nice easy fix and with any luck you'll get a retest slot next week (I got my re-test 4 days after I called Nottingham)
Mark
There is no replacement for displacement...
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 6/7/07 at 12:47 AM |
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Well done!
Perhaps the indicator thing was just to show they were doing their job.
Still you know you will get a good result after the resit.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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flak monkey
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| posted on 6/7/07 at 06:36 AM |
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Thanks gents.
Will get the problems fixed this morning, and will ring the test centre up as well to get a re-test booked.
They didnt measure the brightness of the lights, they both just said they were too bright. Looked up the E numbers on them and said it meant for
motorcycle use only, which wouldnt have been a problem if they hadnt been too bright. They were basically 21W indicators with a reflector, meaning
they were very bright, but that was why I chose to put them on, wasnt thinking they could/would fail for being too bright.
As for the brake pedal, I think I know what the trouble is. Looks like I will be upside down in the footwell later
The car got drenched when we were loading it onto the trailer, and a bit wet on the way back when I ran into some rain.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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02GF74
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| posted on 6/7/07 at 08:28 AM |
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indicators - at the station you could have put some silver foil around part of the bulb but since the brakes failed, not worth the aggro.
you have a number of options:
a) either change the bulb for lower watteage
b) reduce voltage to the bulbs
c) paint the bulb or inside of indicator with a transparent black paint.
I have a fuel pump pull type swithc in LR and found the red lamp too birght - use a coup;leo f piece of paper between lense and bulb whcih sorted it.
I wouldn;t recommend paper in your case as it sounds that your lamps are getting quite hot.
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 6/7/07 at 09:13 AM |
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Well done David, sounds like you very nearly passed first time, which is a real credit to your engineering ability. Hope you can get a retest in ASAP
and get the car OTR in time for the rest of the 'summer'.
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Originally posted by ditchlewis
i past the noise at 99db, and was told that was an easy pass as noise doubles for each 1db.
Noise actually doubles for approximately every 3 dB, but it's very sujective - just how much is 'twice as loud' anyway?
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