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Cellulose Paint
skodaman - 25/8/08 at 06:24 PM

Just bought all remaining cans of satin black cellulose paint at my local suppliers so got enough for my chassis, garden gates fish tank stands etc. but they don't have any compatable primer.
Anyone know of anywhere selling zinc based cellulose (or cellulose compatible) grey primer?


Mark Allanson - 25/8/08 at 06:25 PM

A museum?


skodaman - 25/8/08 at 06:31 PM

har har. I still like cellulose and think a lot of this modern stuff is crap. But then again I prefer crossflows to zetecs.


Bigheppy - 25/8/08 at 06:31 PM

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Fascinating-Finishes-Ltd
Try looking at this site I think he was selling some that might be compatible. Cant find it at the mo 'HIC' but might be worth contacting him.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Repair-Galvanised-Steel-Paint-No-Rust-Zinc-Rich-Primer_W0QQitemZ290169079215QQihZ019QQcategoryZ57217QQcmdZ try this

[Edited on 25/8/08 by Bigheppy]


r1_pete - 25/8/08 at 06:33 PM

Nothing wrong with cellulose, there are many etch primers available in aerosols, most are compatible with celly top coats.


skodaman - 25/8/08 at 06:48 PM

Thanx Bigheppy the zinc rich etc. link looks promising.


madteg - 25/8/08 at 07:07 PM

Try derby motor facters derby as the last time i went in the shelves where stocked with celli


blakep82 - 25/8/08 at 08:32 PM

you can buy cellulose paint at halfords. if you're stuck....


hillbillyracer - 25/8/08 at 08:40 PM

You can still get cellulose at my local panel factors, you're supposed to take the logbook of the classic car you're going to use it on with you before they'll let you buy it.


blakep82 - 25/8/08 at 08:47 PM

i like cellulose paint too. i still can't see how its supposed to be less safe than 2k, which contains arsenic


Mark Allanson - 25/8/08 at 09:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
i like cellulose paint too. i still can't see how its supposed to be less safe than 2k, which contains arsenic


I loved celly too, but it really has been superceded by much better coatings. It was never less safe than 2K which contains cyanide not arsenic. All the constituents of celly were supposed to be natural so the body could break them down and get rid. I am not sure about the thinners though which are claimed to be carcinogenic.


phelpsa - 25/8/08 at 09:32 PM

Search Upol Zinc 182. Can still be bought as it is technically a brush on paint, although it can be thinned down and sprayed using ordinary celly thinners etc.


blakep82 - 25/8/08 at 09:34 PM

oh yeah, cyanide
i'm not well...


Peteff - 25/8/08 at 09:53 PM

I use Blink 182 undercoat for badly pitted surfaces but our local car spares still sells cellulose paint, primer and thinners no problem.


Mark Allanson - 25/8/08 at 10:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
Search Upol Zinc 182. Can still be bought as it is technically a brush on paint, although it can be thinned down and sprayed using ordinary celly thinners etc.


If you use celly thinner with 182 it will destroy the carriers, use standard white spirit and it will be fine


phelpsa - 26/8/08 at 07:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
Search Upol Zinc 182. Can still be bought as it is technically a brush on paint, although it can be thinned down and sprayed using ordinary celly thinners etc.


If you use celly thinner with 182 it will destroy the carriers, use standard white spirit and it will be fine


Good tip I've never actually used it but it was suggested to me as an alternative.


britishtrident - 29/8/08 at 07:31 AM

Cellulose is pretty useless for brush application --


Peteff - 29/8/08 at 10:03 AM

You need brushing retarder thinners for cellulose if you want to brush it. They slow down the drying time so it runs out the marks before it sets. Who is brushing cellulose?


Mark Allanson - 29/8/08 at 06:04 PM

Nobody, BT's got the wrong end of the stick again, they are brushing 182 but using celly thinners.

The only people I know who brush celly are traction engine enthisiasts


Spyderman - 1/9/08 at 10:47 AM

If you want to brush Cellulose and can't get brushing thinners add about 10-15% Xylene/Xylol to the spraying thinners.

Brushing thinners just have a higher Xylene content.


wilkingj - 1/9/08 at 03:12 PM

Celly thinners have Toluene, and / or Xylene in them.
Both are unplesant Solvents.
They can be absorbed through the skin, and can damage your nervous system.
Take the correct precautions when using it.