Hi

I'm starting (well, I just got the tubes delivered) an IRS build of my own design and I'd like to see some drawings of the Indy with all the dimensions (the Build Manual has nono...)
Anyone can help?

Cheers
Joćo

I don't think they do drawings, they just make it up as they go along, a bit like the rest of us .

yours, Pete.

probably so no one copies it!!!

I can send you an MK order form if you want one.

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Originally posted by Mk-Ninja
I can send you an MK order form if you want one.

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the mk 'ers are very loyal and wont give out any dimensions at all.

Yes we are, and there are lots of designs out there which you can buy for not a lot.
You say you have your own design, so why do you want ALL the dimensions of the Indy.
This forum is to share ideas, and keep the cost down. I hope its not to copy manufacturers designs especially friendly ones, on which they make there living.

Gordon

MK make a living from this Joao,

They are trading their considerable knowledge and skills with those of us who don't have them for money. I don't think there are many MK'ers who will share details of their chassis.

Don't be cross with people for being loyal to a good company!

There are IRS chassis designs available elsewhere or you could look at the Tiger Avon book which contians plans for building and IRS car.

HTH

Nick

ditto nick205, get a copy of the tiger avon book. i know kingr has grafted the tiger avon rear to an rc book chassis.

Ned.

We could have some fun with the measurements here guys and see what he ends up with

Indeed having just taken some rudimentary measurements of my chassis I have the following dimensions as a guide.

overall length = 4 barleycorns
height = a little bit less
width = how big is ya arse!

Can anyone assist with suspension details???

Nick

I don't think you chaps are being fair. I can't imagine Joao wants to set up a commercial enterprise rivaling MK. Mr. Champions original plans weren't exactly 'unique' were they?


All manufacturers inspect each others vehicles to see what makes them go, and how they go.


I think Joao's request is perfectly valid. I just don't have the answers

Cheers,

Neil

i usually measure of photos if i like a chassis plan, so its just 'inspired by' rather than 'copied off'.

I'm sorry Noodle, but I cant agree with you.
Ron Champion has made a lot of money selling his book, other people have sold alternative designs. I would have thought if MK wanted to sell there designs then they could make money that way, but have stuck with manufacturing, and as such I dont think it is correct to expect MK customers to measure up their chassis for somebody to copy.
I know that all sorts of manufacturers look at their competitors to improve their equipement where possible, But they dont blatently anounce that they have the base materials and would like the complete dimensioned drawings.
Im sorry if it comes over a bit harsh, but I think that if you appreciate the efforts of a good supplier you shoud support them, and not stab them in the back.

Gordon

Fair enough Ninja, but I hardly think knowing the dimensions of a chassis is tantamount to commercial back-stabbing.

I don't think you've taken Joao's (assumed honourable) motives into account.

Cheers,

Neil.

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Correct-amundo Ninja!

I think this has been a fair response to the question asked.

A better question might be along the lines of....

Does anyone know of detailed/dimensioned plans available for an IRS locost chassis?

To which the answers would have been rather more helpful I suspect.

Of course this is my personal opinion.

Nick

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Originally posted by Noodle
Fair enough Ninja, but I hardly think knowing the dimensions of a chassis is tantamount to commercial back-stabbing.

I don't think you've taken Joao's (assumed honourable) motives into account.

Cheers,

Neil.

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Joćo, if I had an Indy I'd gladly post the dimensions.
I can't think of a good reason why anyone would take offence other than MK himself, I though the forum was here to help each other.

[quoteI know that all sorts of manufacturers look at their competitors to improve their equipement where possible, But they dont blatently anounce that they have the base materials and would like the complete dimensioned drawings.

Well, another thing to look at is the avalibility of the product.

I would love to just buy a kit from MK or Luego but it would cost me a ton for shipping! SO making one myself is abit easyier.

Next time I am in the UK I will be heading to the MK factory and have a look see at a car in person.

Joćo,

I am building a book chassis so I cannot help you with the dimensions you need. From what I have heard from everyone, Martin Keenan is a really decent guy - try asking him, explain your position, then no one would object if the man himself is prepared to help. Whats the worst that could happen - he may say no, but then again he may help

Mark

the MK is pretty much the same as RC's design isnt it apart from the rear suspension, bulk head and maybe slightly different front suspesion

i think you would be able to make an RC chassis then use photos from here to measure to do the rear suspension

I think people also dont wanna give out their dimensions too becuase i feel that i paid good money for the design and therefore it justifyies my payment. i wanted to have a better chassis (IRS) than the RC chasis so thats why i chose the indy

it doesnt seem fair when i paid the big sum for my chassis and by copying it someone could make it for peanuts