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SIDE REPEATERS on wheel arch
chesney321 - 19/2/11 at 10:22 AM

went to pick up my lights and bodywork for my aries locoblade and steve said to wait for the side repeaters that fit on the front arches for a couple of weeks as he says the iva might change and make these fail the test all to do with the 5 degree rule as when you turn your wheels the lights may no longer be visable .dont know if this will happen but be careful.


Macbeast - 19/2/11 at 10:33 AM

I wish the goalposts would stay in one position for more than 2 minutes.
I don't understand why they won't accept two sets of side position indicators. On a 7, if we cant put them on the front wings and can't put them on the scuttle, where the hell CAN we put them ?


big_wasa - 19/2/11 at 10:35 AM

I am fed up with all the little changes. Only place left on a 7 will be the back arches then. I put mine there any way as there easier to wire.


Macbeast - 19/2/11 at 10:39 AM

But my back arches are too far from the front of the car ( 2m something )
Note 5: A side repeater lamp must be fitted within 2600 mm of the front of the vehicle

[Edited on 19/2/11 by Macbeast]


handyandy - 19/2/11 at 10:50 AM

I,ve just checked the IVA manual ( for M1 class vehicle ) & it states that the side repeater must be fitted within 2600mm from the front of the vehicle,

so, I,m fitting mine on the rear arches. ( A Haynes Roadster recently passed IVA with the side repeaters in this position).

cheers
andy


chesney321 - 19/2/11 at 10:51 AM

steve reckons that the only place to put them would be beneath the scuttle on stalks that are long enough to be seen from front and rear but would look like s**t.just remove after the iva though.


handyandy - 19/2/11 at 10:54 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
But my back arches are too far from the front of the car ( 2m something )
Note 5: A side repeater lamp must be fitted within 2600 mm of the front of the vehicle

[Edited on 19/2/11 by Macbeast]


Not sure what the length of your car is.....

but, can you not fit the repeaters at the forward part of the rear arch? as long as the repeater is a minimum of 350mm from the ground & within 2600mm from the front then IMO it should pass the test ok, well, thats what I,m going for

cheers
andy


big_wasa - 19/2/11 at 11:03 AM

Stuff that I am going back to two wheels.

Mine are in the rear arches and are JUST within the 2600mm or what ever it is. Ive already had to put gromets in the scuttle to fill the holes for the last repeaters.

Ive only just changed my seat belts for the third time to keep up with the last revision before xmas of no longer allowing three point static belts. That was another £100 job


Thurbs - 19/2/11 at 11:17 AM

Well i've just put mine in the front arches !!!! fingers crossed.
I've spent more time trying to satisfy ridiculous IVA bull than I have putting the car together, I agree with the test as it keeps some dodgey kits off the road but i wish they could apply a bit of common sense.
Listen to me government agency and common sense get real !!!!!
Keep ploughing through the BS fellow IVA ers


Macbeast - 19/2/11 at 11:41 AM

I guess motorcycle stalks on the scuttle Ughh !!
I also had static belts and have had to buy new ones


stevegough - 19/2/11 at 12:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
Stuff that I am going back to two wheels.

Mine are in the rear arches and are JUST within the 2600mm or what ever it is. Ive already had to put gromets in the scuttle to fill the holes for the last repeaters.


Maybe that's why they are called 'repeaters' Warren?

Mine are on the front of the rear arches - and they are 2350 mm from the front edge at that point. I didn't think these cars varied enough in dimensions to the extent where rear wheel arches fall outside the 2.6 metre point?
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big_wasa - 19/2/11 at 12:14 PM

Yep ive got the same repeaters, position is just a bit higher making them just a little further back.



http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/big_wasa/SDC10224.jpg

[Edited on 19/2/11 by big_wasa]


eddie99 - 19/2/11 at 12:33 PM

Bollocks, well i guess by time i'll be ready for testing, IVA might have changed the rules back hahaa


Mix - 19/2/11 at 03:12 PM

Hi

I suppose the way forward is to incorporate the repeater into the 'wing' mirror surrounds - shouldn't be too hard with the advent of LED flashers. Or is there a reason this would fail?

Regards Mick


Daddylonglegs - 19/2/11 at 04:13 PM

This is getting bl**dy ridiculous!

I've also put mine in the front wings just last week! I hope someone on here has an IVA before I'm ready, to see how they get on, I guess I better be prepared to move mine to the rear arches and do some filling on the front

BTW, car looks pretty nice Steve

[Edited on 19/2/11 by Daddylonglegs]


Michael - 19/2/11 at 05:23 PM

Mine are on the rear wings.

At IVA the first thing the tester said was oh good you read the manual.

He measured them later in the test though for the distance from the front, but i am sure he put a metal bar across front of front tyres and measured back but can not be 100% sure as i was removing boot cover for inspection in that area.


stevegough - 19/2/11 at 05:35 PM

BTW, car looks pretty nice Steve ...

Thanks, Dad!


britishtrident - 19/2/11 at 06:26 PM

Ironic when the front flashers are so badly positioned on many current German & French designed production vehicles.


gavin174 - 19/2/11 at 06:33 PM

I went through IVA with the side reapeaters in the front headlights..

I think I posted a link on here before...

you can buy them now from SVC I believe




[Edited on 19/2/11 by gavin174]


Andybarbet - 19/2/11 at 07:04 PM

Im loving the repeaters in the headlight bowls idea, its spot on

Thats what im going to do now.


loggyboy - 19/2/11 at 10:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gavin174
I went through IVA with the side reapeaters in the front headlights..

I think I posted a link on here before...

you can buy them now from SVC I believe



[Edited on 19/2/11 by gavin174]


Exactly what I was planning to do.


aka_shortie - 20/2/11 at 12:16 AM

If you have already fitted them up front, can you not just leave them and add the extra ones on the rear arch or is that breaking another rule?


Thurbs - 20/2/11 at 12:30 PM

Yep your only allowed one set of repeaters


Macbeast - 20/2/11 at 01:20 PM

Which is really stupid


aka_shortie - 20/2/11 at 10:36 PM

some of the rules / regs make no sense to me.

Surely mounting them on the rear arch makes them less visible. Especially at junctions?


Rallye_Mark - 21/2/11 at 09:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by aka_shortie
some of the rules / regs make no sense to me.

Surely mounting them on the rear arch makes them less visible. Especially at junctions?


I completely agree, I do not understand some of these stupid rules!!!


Dick Axtell - 25/3/11 at 03:36 PM

So the headlamp position seems to be the better position for side repeaters. However, just to check, how will this meet the "5 degree" rule? And what precisely does this rule say, please?

Which page is it on, in the IVA manual? I need to be sure, before I start drilling holes - AGAIN!!

OK - so now I've found the official bit in the IVA test manual. It states "...from the rear, 5 deg to 60 deg.". Yes, but relative to what??? It don't give no datum. How can one establish the correct position without checking these angles? Any help to clarify this point will be gratefully received.

Thanks in advance.

[Edited on 25/3/11 by Dick Axtell]


eddybongos - 25/3/11 at 04:24 PM

wing mirrors?


Dick Axtell - 25/3/11 at 05:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by eddybongos
wing mirrors?


Proably expensive, and my mirrors are already mounted on scuttle. I prefer Gavin174's solution (see on this thread), fixing repeaters into headlamp shell sides. Just wanted to verify checking position a little more precisely.


Thurbs - 26/3/11 at 07:36 AM

Just passed at Nottingham with them on front arches, seemed happy enough, only checked with wheels straight.