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flipping the diff ?
imp paul - 16/1/07 at 08:28 PM

hi just wanted to know has anyone ever flipt a diff in a sierra 3.62 lsd case. or is it possible ? so it would turn the other way cheers paul


Liam - 16/1/07 at 08:40 PM

No room to flip the diff in the case, but you could just turn the whole thing up-side-down and block the breather (perhaps adding another one). If you're gonna run it in the reverse direction too, it might not like it (may just be noisy) but then again it might be fine!

Liam


stevec - 16/1/07 at 08:45 PM

Not designed to run in opposite direction.
Steve.


Smartripper - 16/1/07 at 09:06 PM

Hello,

The dutch importer overhere is building the MK indy with a shaft driven bike engine but that runs the wrong direction.

He is flipping the sierra diff, bloks the breather, and making a breather tru the filler plug.......

He's not having any problems so far and he build a few already, one is good now for 5000 miles.....

Daniel

[Edited on 16/1/07 by Smartripper]


jacko - 16/1/07 at 09:07 PM

I believe z cars flip them over on the front diff but they dont last long


O i may be wrong then reading what is above

[Edited on 16/1/07 by jacko]


imp paul - 16/1/07 at 09:21 PM

thanks for all your help chaps nice 1 paul


Liam - 16/1/07 at 09:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jacko
I believe z cars flip them over on the front diff but they dont last long


O i may be wrong then reading what is above

[Edited on 16/1/07 by jacko]


Running up-side-down doesn't necessarily imply running in reverse direction! In the zcars 4x4 thing the front diff needs to be flipped up-side-down because it is facing forwards rather than backwards. The engine still runs it in the correct direction.

Obviously the sierra diff isn't designed to run in reverse, but that doesn't mean it can't. The pinion shaft runs in two opposed, preloaded tapered roller bearings so reversing the direction of axial thrust isn't gonna do anything to that. The pinion/crownwheel will mesh on the backsides of their teeth. Might be weaker, might not. Might be noisy? Probably wont matter - at the end of the day the sierra diff is quite bulletproof for this kind of app (bike engine I assume), is at least designed to survive putting the sierra in reverse, and cheap enough to test to destruction anyway . I'd suck it and see...

Liam

[Edited on 16/1/07 by Liam]


coozer - 16/1/07 at 10:03 PM

The mesh on the gears is design to go in one, loaded direction only.

Its OK in reverse for a small while but I think it would be very rough and noisy upside down. Especially if its come from an ancient Sierra donor


stevebubs - 17/1/07 at 01:02 AM

Think MK installed this setup in the Indy...


CGILL - 17/1/07 at 03:12 AM

It'll work, you have a crush tube between the two pinion bearings, and running it in reverse loads this crush tube from the thrust created by the hypoid cut. You'll get away with it on a bike engine because it doesn't have huge torque which would destroy this after a few heavy clutch drops. You may get issues from the pinion bearings being starved of oil form being above the oil level. But lets face it, we're not going to be doing 30,000km per year in these cars


robinj66 - 17/1/07 at 08:38 AM

Does it make any difference that it's an LSD?


trikerneil - 17/1/07 at 12:40 PM

My Sierra diff didn't like working upside down.


imp paul - 17/1/07 at 06:06 PM

so i take it the diff will run upside down ok chaps? well i hope .its got to it lives in the rear of my imp faceing backward and upside down mad yes hope it goes to plan cheers paul


gazza285 - 18/1/07 at 06:11 AM

Should be ok as the CWP are running as designed.


Coose - 18/1/07 at 08:54 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CGILL
It'll work, you have a crush tube between the two pinion bearings, and running it in reverse loads this crush tube from the thrust created by the hypoid cut. You'll get away with it on a bike engine because it doesn't have huge torque which would destroy this after a few heavy clutch drops. You may get issues from the pinion bearings being starved of oil form being above the oil level. But lets face it, we're not going to be doing 30,000km per year in these cars


You could always have a solid spacer made to replace the crush tube....